are evil souls reincarnated??

[Belle]

Originally Posted by inspirit

Right and wrong are not just points of view. There are absolutes, and Jesus' commandment should be an indication of what they are, not society's expectations or ethics.

Indeed, and how I perceive these rights and wrongs may not be how you do, does that make me wrong?

[inspirit]

I posted Jesus' commandments above. He even uses the word commandments.

When I said that there are absolutes to good and evil, that doesn't mean that everything is an absolute. But the rule of thumb is that evil is the denial of goodness (love). Evil can happen by accident by a person who isn't perfect, but someone like God does not make a mistake like that.

Everyone makes mistakes (evil). But God isn't interested in judging you for your mistakes. Just like a good mother or father doesn't enjoy punishing their child when they do something by mistake. God's way is forgiveness, love, and eternal life, which is a free gift he gives to all of his Children. Even the bad ones. Because he knows your true potential, since he is the one that created you.

The only thing you have to do is reach for that potential, and God will supply you with all you need on your journey.

Originally Posted by inspirit

I posted Jesus' commandments above. He even uses the word commandments.

When I said that there are absolutes to good and evil, that doesn't mean that everything is an absolute. But the rule of thumb is that evil is the denial of goodness (love). Evil can happen by accident by a person who isn't perfect, but someone like God does not make a mistake like that.

Everyone makes mistakes (evil). But God isn't interested in judging you for your mistakes. Just like a good mother or father doesn't enjoy punishing their child when they do something by mistake. God's way is forgiveness, love, and eternal life, which is a free gift he gives to all of his Children. Even the bad ones. Because he knows your true potential, since he is the one that created you.

The only thing you have to do is reach for that potential, and God will supply you with all you need on your journey.

God does not judge you. You judge yourself... God neither punishes nor rewards....He doesn't meddle in your life at all.....That is why he gave you free will--to make the choices and decisions that affect your life.......

Originally Posted by Iseke

Here's a scary thought:

We are all capable of evil.

As such, there is no such thing as an "evil soul" because all souls can demonstrate evil actions and loving ones. It's the growth of the soul that determines which energetic frequency will take precedence.

And in my opinion, creating an entity like Satan or "darkness" to explain the evil actions of people does nothing but takes away the soul's responsibility for those actions. If it were simply the manipulation of evil forces beyond our control, we would have no reason to grow as souls. We would also have no real value in the choices we make, since clearly we'd have no control over our actions.

Just a thought.

And it's an incredibly powerful thought, Iseke. I believe in a Creator that created us to learn, screw up, know the dark side, know the light side - grow.

In my Native teachings, our Elders tell us of a place that people who have committed extremely violent crimes go to; it sounds kind of a like a cocoon; where these souls lay in a wrapping of healing quiet and darkness, to heal and accept responsibility for their actions. Then if/when they do reincarnate, they come back to the earth world with these powerful soul "lessons" in place. There is no talk of "punishment" or banishment, but healing. Cuz hurt people hurt people - meaning, those who are hurting are not capable of compassion or empathy, and sometimes this lack of compassion leads them to hurt/murder/rape.

that's what feels right to me in my little heart.

[Belle]

I also wonder, how much the people who do us "evil", are just quite simply our most precious teachers. They are the ones who love us most as they are obeying a calling to live so darkly that the light may be known and discovered should we choose, it's the cutting edge, it's the opposite side. Those that simply and beautifully walk in harmony with us, which is wonderful of course, don't really push us as far and drastically in a way to make us sit up and think.

I'm not saying that those that walk with us in harmony aren't a blessing, we do need them, I'm just saying that those called to evil have a really tough call.

Think Judas Iscarius, the one to deliver the kiss on Jesus, even Jesus said "it would have been better if you had never been born". But he was obeying a high calling to betray Jesus, and I don't think he was damned for eternity for having done so as he was part of a precious and sacred plan.

Raven Poet I like what you say, it resonates. I understand when we do something really bad (ie murder) a part of our soul escapes, it will not stay with such an energy and so we hurt ourselves the more. As I understand it, my father has gone to such a place - even tho he didn't anything overtly evil, he certainly needs healings - as you say Raven Poet to accept a responsibility.

I would dare to suggest that place is necessary for all of us, a place of healing where we are coccooned and encouraged to learn responsibility for our actions?

Can any of us honestly say that we are wholly compassionate, empathetic, never do a mean thing - etc?

Not I. There are things I ask daily for forgiveness for. I try to feed the White Wolf inside me, that is inside everyone - but sometimes the Dark Wolf takes control and has its Dog Day. Ah, such is the delicate balancing act of a spirit living a human experience

Originally Posted by Belle

I also wonder, how much the people who do us "evil", are just quite simply our most precious teachers. They are the ones who love us most as they are obeying a calling to live so darkly that the light may be known and discovered should we choose, it's the cutting edge, it's the opposite side. Those that simply and beautifully walk in harmony with us, which is wonderful of course, don't really push us as far and drastically in a way to make us sit up and think.

I'm not saying that those that walk with us in harmony aren't a blessing, we do need them, I'm just saying that those called to evil have a really tough call.

Think Judas Iscarius, the one to deliver the kiss on Jesus, even Jesus said "it would have been better if you had never been born". But he was obeying a high calling to betray Jesus, and I don't think he was damned for eternity for having done so as he was part of a precious and sacred plan.

Raven Poet I like what you say, it resonates. I understand when we do something really bad (ie murder) a part of our soul escapes, it will not stay with such an energy and so we hurt ourselves the more. As I understand it, my father has gone to such a place - even tho he didn't anything overtly evil, he certainly needs healings - as you say Raven Poet to accept a responsibility.

I would dare to suggest that place is necessary for all of us, a place of healing where we are coccooned and encouraged to learn responsibility for our actions?

Can any of us honestly say that we are wholly compassionate, empathetic, never do a mean thing - etc?

I don't think Jesus/Yeshua/Christ would have even said that himself.

[Berry]

I have a medium friend who said in his previous incarnation, he did unspeakable acts of evil. In this life, he was given a very hard time to atone for his past "sins." When he's had enough and wanted to die, he was not given the permission. He says he has much to do and helps people out whenever he can.

Y'all should check out Michael Newton's book Journey of Souls- goes into great detail on these questions and it's very empirical, based on many cases.
(If you want this book PM me)

Some 15 yrs ago before I knew much of anything metaphysical when I first heard about accepting hardships as karmic lessons, it rang a bell in my head SO loud....like I was hardwired to recognize this stuff as "home."
Now on this awakening/SC journey, I know I was really mean and nasty - probably mainly verbally, and especially to my ts/sc. An intuitive told me I had a deep sense of shame about it encoded in my DNA.
Anyhoo, the more I study I just want to work on it and progress... I count it among my blessings that this material is finally widely available. Can you imagine if 40% of the population knew about past lives, etc, and based their personal growth on this knowledge? The speed of the planet's ascension will go up exponentially.

[kennedy123]

Originally Posted by Neville

Hello Tiffanyy.

This is a very big and complex question.

The thing with the soul is it needs to gather experience, it's more of an imperative really. it's what the soul does throughout lifetimes. The shoe gets swapped to the other foot too. A Perpetrator in one life can be a victim in another , some might argue that perpetrators are in fact victims.

Given History as it is now you probably already killed someone in one of histories many wars , by the same token you may well have perished at the hands of another. People associate progressing through lives with progress upwards. You may be the wisest of sages in this life, but if in your soul's experience you have never dodged paying for parking, that then remains for your soul to get the measure of.

There's no particular order in which the soul must gather the experiences as an expression of creation, the experience is the thing and not the nature of the experience.

This is further complicated by the non linear nature of time.Time is a an made concept and not necessarily what we think it is. (Your dreams will be proof that you can occupy both past and future or if you prefer regression and progression hypnosis) If your Soul is relatively new , you may be born in the Second World War period in your next life to experience being shot or shooting someone.

The Soul seems to have to be everything it can be through as many lives as it takes to effectively have experienced everything it can....Or so it would seem.

Why in the world would the soul be interested in experiencing all the negative stuff in the world? That's just silly. Are you interested in getting burned? Being tortured, being poor, being bullied, being maimed? Just b/c there are bad things in the universe doesn't mean the soul necessarily wants to experience them - that's why they are called bad. I think this soul stuff is just a silly way to justify the truth that **** happens to good people.