Integration of meditation or meditation to reach a goal?

[jonesboy]

Lol, but then it changes Vince. You could say the letting go evolves into residing. It is at residing where the term there is nothing to do comes from. It is a very, very advanced state of being.

One resides in Riga. One reides in a calm abiding state but one must first learn to let go to get there.

You can see the trouble with saying there is nothing to do just reside could be for a beginner without understanding how to let go first.

But I woul agree if there was a goal to spiritual practice letting go would be at the top of the list.

[VinceField]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Lol, but then it changes Vince. You could say the letting go evolves into residing. It is at residing where the term there is nothing to do comes from. It is a very, very advanced state of being.

One resides in Riga. One reides in a calm abiding state but one must first learn to let go to get there.

You can see the trouble with saying there is nothing to do just reside could be for a beginner without understanding how to let go first.

But I woul agree if there was a goal to spiritual practice letting go would be at the top of the list.

LOL

So I guess you could say that the goal of letting go would be to arrive at that state of Rigpa.

In my own practice (Theravada Buddhism), the goal of letting go is to release and eliminate the defilements of the mind, and of course, the mental and bodily tension that these defilements give rise to.

[jonesboy]

Mine too and finely said.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Lol, but then it changes Vince. You could say the letting go evolves into residing. It is at residing where the term there is nothing to do comes from. It is a very, very advanced state of being.

One resides in Riga. One reides in a calm abiding state but one must first learn to let go to get there.

You can see the trouble with saying there is nothing to do just reside could be for a beginner without understanding how to let go first.

But I woul agree if there was a goal to spiritual practice letting go would be at the top of the list.

When one resides in this state, is the sitting practice of meditation still needed in ones life?
Does one have to maintain this state?

[VinceField]

Originally Posted by Serrao

When one resides in this state, is the sitting practice of meditation still needed in ones life?
Does one have to maintain this state?

There's only one way to find out!

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by VinceField

There's only one way to find out!

Does this mean that those who achieved this state never tell?

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by VinceField

In my own practice (Theravada Buddhism), the goal of letting go is to release and eliminate the defilements of the mind, and of course, the mental and bodily tension that these defilements give rise to.

Is letting go the only thing you "do" in your meditation or are there also other aspects part of your sitting practice?

ps. If this question is too personal and private I understand that and you can just ignore it and don't answer. I'm only curious about the different aspect(s) of the sitting meditation practice of others too.

[athribiristan]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Why should I come up with words when there are already ones that have meaning behind them. Understood meaning. Of course I can put it into my own words. I am saying new age junk is a waste. Presenting it like it is new is a lie. Not to mention you miss a lot of the sublety which is important.

The Buddha laid out the process in the Lotus Sutra. Yoga also talks about the same process minus the emptiness. Emptiness is a buddhist concept.

Ok, If you are saying I am in a box. Please explain how one generates the Light body. It that enlightenment? Are you done? All I am doing is explaining the steps to get there and what comes next.

Take it or leave it...

I will not be incarnating on Earth again. I don't know what enlightenment is. I am a divine immortal being, I am pure consciousness, I am a voice in the song of creation.....what comes next is whatever I choose. Should I find myself in need of a Light body, I will do the same thing I did to get this body; will it.

Emptiness is not a Buddhist concept, it is a concept that can be found in Buddhism among other places. Buddha also said not to listen to him. There are no ABC's, no roadmap for the spiritual journey.

[athribiristan]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Those are the people I would not listen to then.

Find me one respected teacher who tells you to go into a session with goals in your head.

You won't find one.

My father......the countless people people he instructed, including myself, who went on to be teachers. You were right....I didn't find one.

[Serrao]

Originally Posted by athribiristan

My father......the countless people people he instructed, including myself, who went on to be teachers. You were right....I didn't find one.

Can you give one or a few examples of what one can develop (a goal) with the aid of meditation?