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View Poll Results: Are you a mystic?
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17-06-2023, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
That is far too unorthodox to be part of an official definition.
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Honza,
Precisely, and therein lies the problem. Orthodoxy has the audacity to define that which can not be defined…..God. It attempts to limit that which is unlimited. A control mechanism to simplify the masses and amounts to an agreement of self delusion. Fall in line or be excommunicated, burned at stake or be labeled a heretic…… |
18-06-2023, 09:54 AM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Rah nam
I don't seek any union with God or any other deity, so I am not a mystic.
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Therein I think lies the greatest misunderstanding.
A mystic experience is instantly connected to some God figure and St.Francis of Assissi or St.Therese of Avalon for instance. But, all those who report the same tremendous mystic experiences in life - for example - Aldous Huxley, Maurice Bucke, Goethe, Emerson, Alan Watts and many others, never reported any god presence.
The mental attributes or levels of understanding in nature are similar to music, there are many notes, tones, octaves and vibrations which are needed to even access the hidden structures within.
The best way to roughly see how a mystic experience takes place is to think of a whale springing out of the ocean, for a moment - it (the whale) enters a new element - one finer that the normal, but basically of the same stuff.
We humans, animals, plants, and mineral are a tremendous fundament for all sorts of abilities. Our capabilities of invention and adaption know no bounds, these facilities all being immediately connected to the thing we call mind.
Mind is all there is.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.
'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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18-06-2023, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Busby
Therein I think lies the greatest misunderstanding.
But, all those who report the same tremendous mystic experiences in life - for example - Aldous Huxley, Maurice Bucke,
Goethe, Emerson, Alan Watts and many others, never reported any god presence.
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I agree - no seeking 'union with God' need occur.
Maybe someone just wants to know deeper truths of the Universe and all of creation?
They could be an atheist and remain one, imo.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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18-06-2023, 02:27 PM
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Master
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Yes I wondered about that 'seek union with the absolute' as well. But to be fair the definition of mystic is broader in scope than just that.
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18-06-2023, 03:37 PM
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RE: "Are you a Mystic?"
SUBTOPIC: What is a Mystic? (Postings 11 thru 14)
⁜→ et al,
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Originally Posted by Molearner
Orthodoxy has the audacity to define that which can not be defined…..God.
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Originally Posted by Busby
A mystic experience is instantly connected to some God figure and St.Francis of Assissi or St.Therese of Avalon for instance
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
I agree - no seeking 'union with God' need occur.
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Originally Posted by Honza
But to be fair the definition of mystic is broader in scope than just that.
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Oddly enough, there are valid elements expressed by each of the contributors.
Mysticism has a magical component to it. And the key to that component is "harmony with the universe."
Whether or not the individual mystic has within its faith a belief in the Supreme Being, the concept of a Great Architect ( The Creator of the universe), or any number task oriented deities ( a Divine Entity) it is about the journey into the supernatural ( metaphysics). And that is a very common theme; as anyone can see here. There is no single definition that fits every faith-based construct.
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Most Respectfully,
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18-06-2023, 04:07 PM
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Oddly enough, eh? Why, thank you. Good post, btw.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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18-06-2023, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
Yes I wondered about that 'seek union with the absolute' as well. But to be fair the definition of mystic is broader in scope than just that.
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Don't say that in the Non-duality section ...it is a basic belief there The Absolute and God are not the same. :)
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.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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18-06-2023, 08:46 PM
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Please be mindful of the quotes only two or three sentences allowed
Namaste
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19-06-2023, 07:37 AM
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Maybe I should add, as a byline, that at the moment I experienced my reported mystical experience I wasn't 'on my knees seeking god' I was in the office working quite normally.
Maybe the experience did follow some sort of line - but all the experiences which followed in my life were never the result of 'seeking' but were quite spontaneous.
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The constantly promoted belief (induced by religions) that we are born to be good and obey (in order to enter heaven) is a tragic error in the concept of the universe's plan and an insult to mankind's intellect.
'A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory'
- Mark Twain.
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19-06-2023, 07:48 AM
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To anyone that knows me I am a mystic . They are still trying to "work me out" ...
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