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Old 03-03-2012, 03:38 AM
AstralProjectee AstralProjectee is offline
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Divine messengers of destiny

What if someone consistently does the wrong thing when being warned by divine messengers of destiny. The person being helped but consistently giving up. The person wants to do the right thing but their mind and body are restless in continuing to keep that person from making the right decision. They try and give up, try and give up. They are a good person for the most part. But sometimes they just make some bad mistakes. Doing immoral things. Odd things. Stealing, cursing, fighting, but always wanting to do the right thing but feeling like they didn't have the right opportunity. Eventually they are given a strong warning of divine message about hell. They feel hell on earth and are sorry with great remorse. They feel eternal loss. They do all they can to be perfect. Crying to do the right thing. Months go by. Eventually have have no strength left. They are spent. They have a poor self image in a way. They feel betrayed since they gave all they had and yet could not grow spiritually. They give up. Then years later being warned since then sometimes. A long time goes by. Then they make a some very bad decisions. And that person causes someone to go to hell and also a lot of suffering on earth. But only out of ignorance, since they never found who they really were experientially. What is that persons fate? What is the fate of someone that is greatly warned but in the end they could not find their true self or make the right decision. Do they deserve a great punishment as Jesus says "to whom much is given much is required" or "That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows." In the end the person feels stuck and trapped in a cycle of ** that they can't seem to change. What is their destiny? What do they deserve?


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Old 03-03-2012, 03:43 AM
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What do they deserve?

Compassion.


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Old 03-03-2012, 03:52 AM
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Would compassion include having them go to hell as that would be the only way for them to learn at the stage?


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Old 03-03-2012, 03:57 AM
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David... From the many NDE's I've read, hell is not a place of punishment but is one's experiencing their own intensely negative beliefs and feelings, unresolved rather than released. The divine always emanates compassion whether it is received or not.

We can't know what someone's path or destiny is, in this life or afterward, as it's their own spiritual business.


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Old 03-03-2012, 04:01 AM
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Love is unconditional, it see's people who are so called doing wrong, as being nothing more than ignorant, they do not understand what they are doing, that is not at a deep Spiritual level. As the story of Jesus goes when he was being nailed to the cross, he said to the father, "to forgive them for they no not what they are doing".
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What if someone consistently does the wrong thing when being warned by divine messengers of destiny. The person being helped but consistently giving up. The person wants to do the right thing but their mind and body are restless in continuing to keep that person from making the right decision. They try and give up, try and give up. They are a good person for the most part. But sometimes they just make some bad mistakes. Doing immoral things. Odd things. Stealing, cursing, fighting, but always wanting to do the right thing but feeling like they didn't have the right opportunity. Eventually they are given a strong warning of divine message about hell. They feel hell on earth and are sorry with great remorse. They feel eternal loss. They do all they can to be perfect. Crying to do the right thing. Months go by. Eventually have have no strength left. They are spent. They have a poor self image in a way. They feel betrayed since they gave all they had and yet could not grow spiritually. They give up. Then years later being warned since then sometimes. A long time goes by. Then they make a some very bad decisions. And that person causes someone to go to hell and also a lot of suffering on earth. But only out of ignorance, since they never found who they really were experientially. What is that persons fate? What is the fate of someone that is greatly warned but in the end they could not find their true self or make the right decision. Do they deserve a great punishment as Jesus says "to whom much is given much is required" or "That servant who knows his master's will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with many blows." In the end the person feels stuck and trapped in a cycle of ** that they can't seem to change. What is their destiny? What do they deserve?


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...are we to truly know their fate and destiny?.....all we can do is accept and act according to our own truth in that space if we enter it as part of our own journey. The many blows that Jesus spoke of can be most times by our own hand...we are the master and the servant......our will is our own....but the divine will is what will eventually lead the blind home
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