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Old 06-02-2012, 11:48 PM
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I Am Christ

The title of this thread, ‘I am Christ’, although sounding like the rant of a deluded mind, is in fact, a profound notion. A notion that has the power to end wars, famine, inequality and the manipulation, which has been the cornerstone of both religion and politics. This philosophy, which I have termed‘I am Christ’, is not of my own contrivance, but dates back to a time before the alleged advent of Christ himself. Philosophers like Socrates and Plato propagated this ancient idea, along with more modern scholars like, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Carl Gustav Jung, Wilhelm Reich, Albert Einstein and the late professor of mythology at Princeton University, Joseph Campbell, to name just a few.

Although it is an exceptionally useful way of thinking, it is frightening to those malign shepherds who have been at the helm of the sinking ship of humanity, since time immemorial. As a result of the threat posed by this idea, the heads of both religion and politics have released a virus into the minds of the many. In so doing, they have ensured that this philosophy is denied the opportunity to take root amongst the masses. This virus has continued to ensure our masters' ill-gotten power over us. We have given this virus the harmless and innocent name,‘belief.’ Yet, it is far from harmless and has been the favored tool of the malevolent in fomenting disorder and chaos amongst an otherwise intelligent species. Should we be freed from this cognitive prison, the balance of power between the masses and the elites would shift, toppling the naked emperors that have subjugated humanity since the deliberate spread of this mental and emotional plague!
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:25 AM
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Many believed Jesus Christ to be blasphemous.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:29 AM
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Many believed Jesus Christ to be blasphemous.

And what in common do those who claim themselves to be Jesus Christ, have in common with being God? or only that they and His Son were called blasphemous? Is there some form of common identity, qualities, characteristics, and attributes, that we may base some form of identification on? Or only the claim, if one claims themselves Christ, well then, show us, in all likeness what Christ had DONE.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:47 AM
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And why and what in common do those who claim themselves to be Jesus Christ, have in common with being God? or only that they and His Son were called blasphemous? Is there some form of common identity, qualities, characteristics, and attributes, that we may base some form of identification on? Or only the claim, if one claims themselves Christ, well then, show us, in all likeness what Christ had DONE.


It is my belief that everyone and everything is God. Many manifold Universes, time frames and spans expand this but where is the Unity of the all ever broken?
It might be thought that it can be broken by thoughts of good and Evil, but these are thoughts and while thoughts can create and lead to the temporal physical creations of all kinds of things, the thoughts do not have the ability to be the thinker.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:49 AM
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It is my belief that everyone and everything is God.

And that is a false and dangerous idea. The thoughts do not have the ability to be the thinker? or is it better said, I think, therefore I am?
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:11 AM
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And that is a total false and dangerous idea. The thoughts do not have the ability to be the thinker? or is it better said, I think, therefore I am?

Now you try and think for yourself and you tell me why you think my idea is false and dangerous? Remember your Christ when he said to not cast judgments like that? Read what Psycho said about Jesus one day saying to people who professed followship of His as those who never knew Him, and remember your Bible where it states that "Ye too are are Gods" , and remember too that Jesus befriended so called sinners and tax collectors and thieves and harlots and the leperous as well.

I do not think when you call others who see differently than you do as false and dangerous, you are following the teachings of Christ very precisely.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:44 AM
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The title of this thread, ‘I am Christ’, although sounding like the rant of a deluded mind, is in fact, a profound notion. A notion that has the power to end wars, famine, inequality and the manipulation, which has been the cornerstone of both religion and politics. This philosophy, which I have termed‘I am Christ’, is not of my own contrivance, but dates back to a time before the alleged advent of Christ himself. Philosophers like Socrates and Plato propagated this ancient idea, along with more modern scholars like, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Carl Gustav Jung, Wilhelm Reich, Albert Einstein and the late professor of mythology at Princeton University, Joseph Campbell, to name just a few.

Although it is an exceptionally useful way of thinking, it is frightening to those malign shepherds who have been at the helm of the sinking ship of humanity, since time immemorial. As a result of the threat posed by this idea, the heads of both religion and politics have released a virus into the minds of the many. In so doing, they have ensured that this philosophy is denied the opportunity to take root amongst the masses. This virus has continued to ensure our masters' ill-gotten power over us. We have given this virus the harmless and innocent name,‘belief.’ Yet, it is far from harmless and has been the favored tool of the malevolent in fomenting disorder and chaos amongst an otherwise intelligent species. Should we be freed from this cognitive prison, the balance of power between the masses and the elites would shift, toppling the naked emperors that have subjugated humanity since the deliberate spread of this mental and emotional plague!
Great stuff michaelsherlock, I can see Christianity moving towards this way of thinking, no longer stuck in the old dead past, no longer needing to crawl to a man that supposedly lived over 2000 years ago. The story of Jesus is the story of many god men such as the Buddha, Krishna......

The early manuscripts were all taken from other beliefs and woven into the story of Jesus, all these stories are our story, they point to our own inner Being, call it the Christ, Buddha or whatever it makes no difference.

The trouble with present Christianity is that they are separating themselves from God, God being our true inner being, or Christ Consciousness. To the ignorant this is seen as blasphemy, when all the time they are the ones who are blaspheming. We are all One in Consciousness, to continue to see otherwise is to live in ignorance.

All religion does is separate, all believing that their religion is the true one, its time to end this childish game, its time to grow up and mature spiritually, its time to take what is your's, and that is your true Identity, the Christ.

When I say that I AM the Christ, I am saying at the same time that we are all the Christ, there is One Christ, One Consciousness, One Religion, this is what true Religion is. I want every individual to have his own religion–in other words his own lifestyle, his own philosophy–and to live according to his own deepening insight.

Don't let the ego of others, or the devil, tell you any different, they feel fear in this way of thinking, they are the ones who fear god and because of this, they will project their fear onto you.

Go out and tell the world of your new found Identity the Christ, be bold and never let anyone drag you down to their hell, for these are the one's that the Christ never knew.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:18 AM
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Great stuff michaelsherlock, I can see Christianity moving towards this way of thinking, no longer stuck in the old dead past, no longer needing to crawl to a man that supposedly lived over 2000 years ago.
I think it's something not just Christians are moving towards but all people. We're slowly over time gaining love for ourselves, shown in how different parts of the world are becoming less barbaric and more humane. Ideas are changing, we're learning that human life is valuable. The human race has been changing considerably in a relatively short period of time, so the future will look much different than it is today. I believe that soon science will merge with spirituality, and when that happens we'll start to advance very quickly.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:42 AM
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I think that the church has been innovative, and current trends are not necessarily new. For example, in the early church people who did not fully and whole heartedly convert, brought their traditions and teaching into the church. The same can be said in the current post-modern trend, which has only been said to have developed in the last few hundred years. As a whole though, the church has experienced division, ever since the first church in the book of acts, where, inequity was found in doors. The apostles had confronted the issues between Hebraic and Grecian Jews, you can refer to the Scriptures in chapter seven if memory serves correctly, and the result were additional disciples to properly distribute and care for the needs of church members.

Applied to the current trend of thinking, there's a difference between compromise of orthodox teaching, and other worldly ideas. The church must be on guard full time, yet not be opposed to forward progress and thinking. Science and religion compliment each other, they don't necessarily oppose each other. While one is the interpretation of nature, the other is the interpretation of Scripture. Scripture and nature do not conflict one another, actually they compliment one another. If anything though, one can take backward steps in using science in the wrong way, jeopardizing their moral and ethical foundations. God's command to subdue the world can be fulfilled in medical science, in the battle against disease and other life threatening illnesses. Its all the perspective one takes.....
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:13 AM
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God's command to subdue the world can be fulfilled in medical science, in the battle against disease and other life threatening illnesses.
I wholeheartedly agree, I think it's very loving act to advance medical science. And also that can be a place where science and spirituallty merge, I've been amazed at how science is becoming more open to 'alternate' therapies. There are probably people of all beliefs that are working on that front, Christians being one of them I'd imagine because of the way they try to help the sick.
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