Christianity and the New Age Movement

Originally Posted by psychoslice

Reveling the truth of religion isn't talking down to it, the dark ages were because of religion, that is a fact, there is some good in religion and there is some bad, pointing out the bad is again not talking down to it, its stating the fact. This is what Jesus himself did with the religious people of his time, that being the jewish pharisees, he told them strait, he didn't beat around the bush.

Pointing out what you think is bad is not stating facts, it is simply saying that you think some things are bad. Opinions are not facts, they are just opinions.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Mayflow

Pointing out what you think is bad is not stating facts, it is simply saying that you think some things are bad. Opinions are not facts, they are just opinions.

That is true, but was it just an opinion that there was such a thing as the dark age ?.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

Reveling the truth of religion isn't talking down to it, the dark ages were because of religion, that is a fact, there is some good in religion and there is some bad, pointing out the bad is again not talking down to it, its stating the fact. This is what Jesus himself did with the religious people of his time, that being the jewish pharisees, he told them strait, he didn't beat around the bush.

I think there are positive and negative aspects to just about everything. New Age has it's problems as well, no one is perfect. I don't believe in a future world where we'll finally have everything worked out. Once we get past one problem, a new problem always pops up. Things like fundamentalism don't just pop up out of nowhere. In order to adopt a mindset of hate people have to be unhappy. The Jewish people were being oppressed for hundreds of years and wondering when it all was going to end. Then people like the apostle Paul show up and say 'here is the answer!'. It gives us a sense of comfort in the midst of sorrow to believe to have found the 'missing truth' that no one else can see. Then the idea spreads to others who are hurting and looking for answers. The only answer I can see is to try to work on out our own personal pain and issues so we have less hate to leave to our children.

[Morpheus]

"The real religion is not imitation of anybody else, it is a search to find out your own authentic self, who you are."

http://www.angelsghosts.com/angels_what_are_they.html

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

I think there are positive and negative aspects to just about everything. New Age has it's problems as well, no one is perfect. I don't believe in a future world where we'll finally have everything worked out. Once we get past one problem, a new problem always pops up. Things like fundamentalism don't just pop up out of nowhere. In order to adopt a mindset of hate people have to be unhappy. The Jewish people were being oppressed for hundreds of years and wondering when it all was going to end. Then people like the apostle Paul show up and say 'here is the answer!'. It gives us a sense of comfort in the midst of sorrow to believe to have found the 'missing truth' that no one else can see. Then the idea spreads to others who are hurting and looking for answers. The only answer I can see is to try to work on out our own personal pain and issues so we have less hate to leave to our children.

Yes well said, and as Paul said, "work out your own salvation...".

Originally Posted by psychoslice

Yes well said, and as Paul said, "work out your own salvation...".

Erm - actually Buddha said that, not Paul. Buddha said it when his physical body was dying. I don't think Paul ever said anything like that at all.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Mayflow

Erm - actually Buddha said that, not Paul. Buddha said it when his physical body was dying. I don't think Paul ever said anything like that at all.

Paul did say it, but it sounds like he was trying to tell other people that and not himself. He thought everyone should believe like him, that his answer was everyone elses answer. It seems like that sometimes, but actually there are many different faiths and ways of believing.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Mayflow

Erm - actually Buddha said that, not Paul. Buddha said it when his physical body was dying. I don't think Paul ever said anything like that at all.

Yes he did: Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

Yes he did: Philippians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

So in other words, "It was easy for you when I was around to show you the way, but now you're going to have to work hard at it since I'm not there." Just curious, what does that sound like to you?

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

So in other words, "It was easy for you when I was around to show you the way, but now you're going to have to work hard at it since I'm not there." Just curious, what does that sound like to you?

Well that's really what it means, but I don't think it means just his way, like his way is his, not my way or your's, as Jesus said, "I am the way", he was talking about his inner Divinity, the Christ Consciousnesses, not his way as the man Jesus.