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Old 28-10-2016, 12:57 PM
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Yes, but the cycles and rhythms vary for different things, a star (sun) is born and many last for eons before dying, contrary to that the mayfly lives for only 1-day. How long is forever, no one really knows, so we say what if people lived forever, and that in an of itself is a misnomer, so anything which is stated after that is fictitious.

Time is an illusion; by today's standards we live much longer than people did thousands of years ago. If a human being lived for 1-thousand years would they still be wondering why they have to die? To me it is all relative, that is to say in relation to something or other. Yes, there are cycles and rhythms and those cycles and rhythms are different for different species and other things. But human being are learning how to extend those cycles and master rhythms. I agree that which has a beginning also has an end, but that which we truly are is without beginning or end; so maybe in my wild speculation the day will come when immortal souls can come into this world and not die but leave of their own accord if they so desired; truth being stranger than fiction.

If a 'soul' is immortal then it has always been and always will be. It was never born and will never die. If you mean that such an immortal 'soul' can enter a physical form and not die (thus retaining the physical condition and so not returning to its 'soul' condition) then you haven't taken into account that Everything physical is made of atoms and atoms disperse. You, for instance, have a few of those trillions of atoms in your body which originally made up Napoleon's body. A thing is either eternal or not, eating only cabbage leaves (or whatever) won't prevent this basic law functioning. Only non-physical things can be eternal.
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Old 28-10-2016, 02:49 PM
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If a 'soul' is immortal then it has always been and always will be. It was never born and will never die. If you mean that such an immortal 'soul' can enter a physical form and not die (thus retaining the physical condition and so not returning to its 'soul' condition) then you haven't taken into account that Everything physical is made of atoms and atoms disperse. You, for instance, have a few of those trillions of atoms in your body which originally made up Napoleon's body. A thing is either eternal or not, eating only cabbage leaves (or whatever) won't prevent this basic law functioning. Only non-physical things can be eternal.
To live in this world and know that you are not of this world. One can keep their soul condition while inhabiting a physical human form. Everything is immortal, nothing is destroyed rather everything is transformed. The destruction of something is a matter of perception. Everything is made of spirit and talking about beginnings and endings is but a current human point of view which possibly is subject to change with more enlightenment of the human species. Our reality is interpreted by the experience of our senses.

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Old 19-11-2016, 04:47 PM
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When my wife first came to this country she thought all the trees around our house were dead (she's from West Africa, it was November). We are the tree and our life on earth is a leaf! This world is a transient place so everything here is temporary also. Learn what you can and move on!
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