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Originally Posted by lemex
Ok, I'm going to ask a basic question that happens on the world since it was specially asked is it perfect. We to are part of a thing of the universe. Of course such things don't occur out in space. What about such natural and real things such as birth defects, disease, etc. Reference the thought of "the" plan implies something to. learning. As far as pure perfect why do some suffer (go through) and some do not? Here I'm not talking about perception but natural occurrences.
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Good question, IMO, lemex. I think any application of the
idea that and so arriving at the
conclusion that something or other is 'perfect' (or imperfect)
depends on what the person applying such ideas holds to be of 'supreme' value.
The fact that 'death' is an inseparable part of 'life on earth', for instance, may result in some 'seeing' and 'deciding' that 'life' as it is on earth is 'imperfect', while other may 'see' that having 'death' be a natural part of 'life' on earth is a 'perfect' set-up because people are generally so
unconscious that they tend
not to fully appreciate everything, and, in this case,
only learn to
value and
make the most of 'life' on earth
because it
isn't something they can completely 'take' for 'granted'.
Have you ever played the "
If I was the 'ruler' of the universe, what would I choose to do ... " game? I was 'surprised' when I came to the conclusion (in my early thirties) that
if I could eliminate all of the illness, pain, injustice, suffering, etc. in the world with just a 'snap' of my fingers, I
wouldn't do so!
Why? Because I 'saw' that
if everyone was just hunky-dory 'happy' (by way of themselves and others being 'free' of being 'subject' to such sorts of things), things like 'empathy', 'compassion', 'love' (the 'caring' kind), and 'generosity' would
never develop 'in' their 'souls'. And I began and still continue to process of 'seeing' that having such things
unavoidably be part and parcel of earthly experience was a 'perfect' set-up
because this world is the place where 'new' souls get 'born' and have a chance to develop to 'maturity' (in terms of becoming
fully empathetic, compassionate, loving (the caring kind), and generously creative. Such a view (IMO) requires that one view and embrace 'earthly life'
as being a 'hard' school, which is
benevolent (in terms of
ultimate effect), giving each and every soul that incarnates in it both the stimulus and the opportunity to 'grow' to 'maturity' - at which point it 'graduates' from said school and becomes and serves as an 'angelic' spirit-presence forever thereafter.
Hence my woohoo! celebratory gesticulations, as I join with others in celebrating the absolute wonderfulness of life on earth
despite the experientally 'nasty' things you mention, which I in no way deny the experiential 'nastiness' of. No other kind of 'system' could
more 'perfectly' nurture the actualization of such glorious result to 'fruition', IMO.
There is a
long way any soul must go and one has to
start 'small' (by taking 'small' steps in such direction) to get there. Based on my 75 years of experience, however, I can say that, despite the
many difficulties, frustrations (in terms of what one 'wishes' were the case) and failures one may experience along the way, which are often
really 'daunting' (I at least experienced
many to be so), one's soul-development process eventually 'grows' in exponentially greater 'leaps and bounds' to the point where it becomes 'ecstatic' (at least in large measure)!