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Old 09-12-2023, 10:13 AM
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“Not Jew or Greek, nor slave or free, not male or female for 'we' are all one in Christ.”
I can imagine different people from different faiths/cultures who come together to practice 'silent meditation' sharing silent glimpses of who they really are, oneness that perceives " Not Jew or Greek" etc:.... Individuality in oneness, experienced in silence.

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Old 09-12-2023, 10:16 AM
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Yes.. that's scoring an open goal, Sky.
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Old 11-12-2023, 03:21 PM
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If all is one then all is the Creator/Source and we are all an individual part of the Creator/Source.(Sparks from the same fire).
Jesus realised this in His statement, "My Father and I are one"....

Your post reminded me of 1 Corinthians 13...
The Way of Love
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...13&version=ESV

What a decent world we would have to live in if we could all walk torward and grasp Love as a Way of Life...Which reminds me of the song 'Imagine' by John Lennon...

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Old 15-12-2023, 05:21 PM
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"The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God’s eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Meister Eckhart .

In oneness the seer, the seeing, and the seen are the same.... Imo.
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Old 16-12-2023, 02:58 AM
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Yep. Gotta say I totally agree with that.
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Old 19-12-2023, 09:03 AM
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Yep. Gotta say I totally agree with that.

Because you've personally experienced it
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Old 19-12-2023, 11:54 AM
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I like to imagine God as the Sun with humanity as the rays - inseparable from the Sun but not the Sun in its entirety. Same with the waves of an ocean.
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Old 29-12-2023, 09:03 PM
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If all is one then all is the Creator/Source and we are all an individual part of the Creator/Source.(Sparks from the same fire).
Jesus realised this in His statement, "My Father and I are one"....
Just my own personal opinion and thoughts.

My thoughts on individuality in oneness, the stages of how we experience God as I understand them.

1. There are individuals that see no God.

2. There are individuals that believe in God but see God as separate from themselves.

3. There are those that experience and understand that they are a part of God and God is a part of them.

4. Finally there are those that go so deep into God that there’s no longer an individual or individuals, there is no separation or individuality in anything , there is only the one God or the absolute, the ineffable. At this stage there is no “individuality in oneness.” Ultimately individuality/ego is an illusion that separates us from God. IMO

As far as Christianity goes

“dying to self, the polar opposite of ego, is the biblical model for Christians.”

“In the Christian life devoid of ego, the “I will” becomes a “thy will.”

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-ego.html

Robert Russell says something along the lines that Jesus made it clear that if we remain in personality then the realization of wholeness or perfection of spirit is not possible. The realization of God by overcoming ego is also talked about. In addition he explains what Jesus is, what the Christ is and what I and the father are one means. Until we live in God/ in perfection, we will live in the imperfection of personality/ego and we cannot make that claim that I and the father are one.

The ego/personality/the self is what separates us from God. The practice or path is a stripping away, unbecoming, a dying to make room for the higher. In the Bible John 3:30 talks about decreasing the self and making room for God and Galatians 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live but Christ who lives in me” that is the second coming of Christ, the resurrection of Christ in you.

So to make the statement that I and the father are one as it means in the Bible then you have been symbolically crucified, died to individuality/the self/ego/personality and thus Christ has been resurrected within. Christ represents perfection, knowledge of God, Truth revealed and more. This is my understanding.
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Old 29-12-2023, 09:21 PM
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Which Robert Russel; there are so many? Link?
Sorry, if I missed it in another post somewhere.
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Old 30-12-2023, 03:55 AM
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be a portion of God, Jesus pays for all our sins & shares his glory of heaven as co-heirs.
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