Is Freewill in the bible did it exist or everything is already decided for you ?

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God gave us freewill , he gave it in Eden if they did not have freewill the devil could not of rebelled in heaven something I like not talking about. We can choose and the bible does say to choose to sin or to choose not to sin given people the choice.


A good friend said this.

Charles Spurgeon,

"Free will carried many a soul to hell, but never a soul to heaven.

Free-will doctrine-what does it? It magnifies man into God. It declares God's purposes a nullity, since they cannot be carried out unless men are willing. It makes God's will a waiting servant to the will of man, and the whole covenant of grace dependent on human action. Denying election on the ground of injustice, it holds God to be a debtor to sinners.

I do not come into this pulpit hoping that perhaps somebody will of his own free will return to Christ. My hope lies in another quarter. I hope that my Master will lay hold of some of them and say, "You are mine, and you shall be mine. I claim you for myself." My hope arises from the freeness of grace, and not from the freedom of the will.

Free will I have often heard of, but I have never seen it. I have always met with will, and plenty of it, but it has either been led captive by sin or held in the blessed bonds of grace.

We would labor earnestly to raise a believer in salvation by free will into a believer in salvation by grace, for we long to see all religious teaching built upon the solid rock of truth and not upon the sand of imagination. At the same time, our grand object is not the revision of opinions, but the regeneration of natures. We should bring men to Christ, not to our own particular views of Christianity.

His will cannot be neutral or 'free' to act contrary to his nature."

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Remember there many definitions of freewill. Determinism, freewill modern liberalism, freewill biblical, freewill your own experience, and freewill thru God his way when he created creationa nd from Jesus point of view how he wanted.


We are all learning freewill and we are seeing the deep of this huge field of freewill theology which is great in rich text and defines our relation with him in if we really trust, we trust him a percentage, we trust him like a child to a parent or we do not realize what we are ? Really we don't know the trueselves. Remember God says he has meant before you were born and he has plan of God for ya. He sent you here for a purpose one you and him agreed when he sent you here to do something he wanted to find your purpose on how you use your will and put in his hand find the secret thing of God sent you here.


He will reveal it to you in prayer and test and find the relation of Jesus how he used freewill and find when you try to do it like him even do impossible you will find why he sent you here in this planet.
We all have different purposes here in this planet but what he wants in his secret plan for you only and to do his plan you will discover the secret of life and love and his will.
Our will must be in his to know what he wanted us to do ;D.




Be the person you were before he sent you here, when you were in heaven for some it's being a child again for others being the mature and repsonsible person to achive like Jesus it will be revealed those secrets of us inside. The world teaches us to be liek the world and buy and sell, eat and drink and just sleep forget the world and you important. When you find God and you dig inside of you and ask God tell me why

you sent me here to save my friends to go to war and save someone you have in your perfect plan or for me just for one day help someone
you want in the future he becomes christian and enjoy the rest of my life with my family and he agve it easy for you ;D. it could be the smallest things or biggest to be president. He told you to be here in this world.

This is why we must go and ask him and pass God's test and when he sees he will show you his secret things in the bible and show you met him in heaven and he had plan and i'm not saying you are angel he sent you for in the bible Jesus says we will be like angels but in greek and other translation when he says that he just comparing us we cannot prove we are angels in this context but regardless he has a plan and he wanted us to be here for a special reason.

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Ask God what is he sent you and you will find the secret of freewill and see things in Jesus view in how perfect will in God you have freewill if your the person that comes close to be like Jesus , he will reveal to you why he sent you and give you the powers to get to heaven, to being preisdent to find true love, to be like Jesus and love all like he does and show that secret he gives us all about him and do the thing he wanted you to find. And go thru all probablities to get there and find the things he wanted you showing that Huldah mistake and Moses mistake of hitting the rock and in error of man destiny can be changed but thru love and prayer to him and finding true love finding his secret of why he sent you, and finding the real things of the bible perhaps is why he sent you, so you can find the real things of the bible and help the world.


See that the error of Moses and huldah shows by example that destiny can go other way and for a purpose he has in secret and thru he's test he can reveal secrets their and showed us Moses error was left to show we can do the opposite and change the destiny by love and faith we could change error in love and it can go into actions in the future that will change histroy and we can move destiny not in error like moses but love can change it ? Yes it is possible even though you cannot understand that something I do understand of how the universe and

possibilities can change and we can change things for good and not make the mistake like moses did and huldah and get more people saved and have more people been baptized yes. Their are exception and God has given us exceptions that destiny can be changed and that determinism by his will can exist without him be having control all over the universe.



And love is how God shows he can change the universe and chaneg timelines and move things in a better way ? Yes. God could end our civilization end this and do another things and change us all. God can erase form our minds and erase in that instant to israelites in the desert to forget moses made that error or send an angel in that instant stop him from making that error nothing is impossible to the lord. God can but he wants us to learn he wants us to love he wants us to be in his story in our universe.

Truly he can change it all make it perfect he is God. God of gods, but by doing those things he lets us see the blindspot to our advantage that we can change our destiny to be president to be the secret things he sent you here to know what purpose, to do more than we our just simple human beings but with him we can change the future and be what we want. Some of you do not understand that because you do not know becuase you don't know why your here but I know why i'm here and know those secret stuff becuase he told us all why he sent us here from heaven and it's in the bible and your personal life to know what those things are.
Some of us will the real things of the bible and when we know we realize he a bigger plan than we know he wanted us to do the secret stuff of the bible. ;D.

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You know how the bible says man cannot direct their own steps but with god all things are possible? This is a direct statement about the difference between fate/destiny and free will.

The 'man' made in the image of God is the soul body, the first dimensional body God created, also known as the son of god, which is a term refering to dimesnional location. For example, son of means it comes from the dimension above. Son of man is the dimensional plane below the son of god because it came from man. From the perspective of the son of man, the son of god is also its 'father'. Its similar to a computer file system where it has a 'parent directory' and sub (i.e., son) directories.

God created man and establishes its condition or state as a response to what we do. It's like giving a doll to a child. If the child sins, the parent takes the doll and shows the child what it is doing so it can understand what it should and should not be doing to be healthy and happy.

The problem we have in our consciousness in society is that we are not consciously aware of what is going on in our higher consciousness, the soul body of man. The soul body is the dimensional location of emotions. When we feel an emotion, we tend to uncosciously react to it vs. understanding what it is and why it exists in the way that it does. And, if we believe that we are our emotions, then we will feel teh need to protect it or ourselves from feeling (specific) emotions, and thus our behaviors are predestined based on a couple of factors such as if we are self-aware of what we are experiencing emotionally as a response to what we are experiencing physically, and the condition of the emotion.

God is our god body. That is where our imagination is. That is beyond time, above the soul body of man. If you feel an emotion and react to the emotion unconsciously, you are not exercising your free will. If you feel an emotion and then choose to do the right thing vs. what you feel, then your exercising your will in your god body frees you from the predestined phsyical behavior you would experience had you responded to the emotion instead. Therefore, with god, all things are possible vs. being constrained to an unconscious response to emotion.

Because emotion is also refers to as water or waters, if we rise above teh soul body of man and exercise the will of our god bodies, then we don't attain free will, we are exercising what we already have, which is an attribute of life, not given by God but a characteristic of the life form that is god.

To understand fate and free will, one needs to understand the relationship between God and us and what each does and can do in what dimensional location.

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We can do freewill is the question your will is in God's or you are conflict. God is not against you. You need to put things in God's hands and pray. See that pray and pray is how Jesus had his relation with God and wants us to be the same and pray to him.

elderon pray to him and ask to have your will to be in his and he will help you get there and you will have the asnwer to your promblem living it.

He wants you to love like him.