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Old 02-08-2014, 11:23 AM
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I'm curious as to why everyone is attacking this mickiel guy. He stated from the very beginning that it was his theory. Theory, meaning - a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. He wasn't trying to change any one's beliefs or their way of thinking so why is everyone trying to do that to him? Or, to make out like he is crazy for thinking this way? I for one think it's an interesting theory. I may not agree with everything he says but who really has the key to know exactly what the circumstance were 'before Adam'?

This is all I will say because I feel like people will now jump on top of me for what I said - topics like this can get pretty heated sometimes on the forum - and I by no means wanted to start something or offend people and I will apologize now if I have offended someone. I will not reply to any ones response to me - good or bad. I just wanted to put my 2 little cents in there


Well it is theory, no doubt about it, and I stated as such. There has to be a reason why humans before Adam, were not as aware as Adam obviously was; and I think the difference may well be in consciousness. They had the same physical bodies, same inner organs, same earth to live on; same environments basically, although we could argue that environments were different in some areas; but why did things change so dramatically after Adam? And I think consciousness explains that; Adam was just FAR more conscious than I think God made primordial man.

Now this is a difficult subject to discuss, because many do not even believe Adam existed or God; so when I discuss it with those, I lean on history and the componants of civilization to explain it.
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Old 02-08-2014, 05:17 PM
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Well it is theory, no doubt about it, and I stated as such. There has to be a reason why humans before Adam, were not as aware as Adam obviously was; and I think the difference may well be in consciousness. They had the same physical bodies, same inner organs, same earth to live on; same environments basically, although we could argue that environments were different in some areas; but why did things change so dramatically after Adam? And I think consciousness explains that; Adam was just FAR more conscious than I think God made primordial man.

Now this is a difficult subject to discuss, because many do not even believe Adam existed or God; so when I discuss it with those, I lean on history and the componants of civilization to explain it.

From a biblical perspective I can kind a see where your coming from. And what your saying holds true for certain parts of the world. Others not so much.

Taking the bible out of it. I feel its the invention of agriculture that has most to do with your concept of being conscious. But like I have said before to me it has a lot to do with cultural ideology than being conscious.
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Old 05-08-2014, 12:45 PM
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From a biblical perspective I can kind a see where your coming from. And what your saying holds true for certain parts of the world. Others not so much.

Taking the bible out of it. I feel its the invention of agriculture that has most to do with your concept of being conscious. But like I have said before to me it has a lot to do with cultural ideology than being conscious.


Well its not a complete sweep of the world, but it covers much of it. Which makes the theory more relevant.
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