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23-11-2011, 11:34 PM
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Was Primordal man Conscious?
An interesting question of which I believe the answer is no! The more I look into what Consciousness is, the more I seriously doubt that primordal humans were conscious at all. Which opens up some serious questions for those like myself who believe in God and creation. I believe that Adam was the " First human God created with Consciousness, meaning his image;" but he defintely was not the first human God created, archaeology is ample proof of that.
So why did God create Primordal humans? The answer to that is an ongoing study of mine. I only can quess, I just don't know.
But Neanderthals and Cromagnons were there; they existed. Primordal humans are a fact; and I think another fact that is simply unbelivable, is that a whole race of humans could exist; and yet not be conscious; as we are conscious.
Literally every known area of consciousness displayed; they simply didnot display it. And had ample time to do it, yet they stayed stagnant. Animal like, having high instincts. They never became civilized, never developed language; never developed agriculture, no written language; no transportation. They never had any industries; no business, no schools, no religions; The list of the signs of consciousness in humans goes on and on, and I simply can't tie primordal humans into a working consciousness. There is absolutely no archaeological evidence of consciousness in primordal humans; none that I have seen.
It is indeed a mystery to me.
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23-11-2011, 11:58 PM
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the myth of adam and eve was about humans becoming self aware. ( they saw that they were naked)
self-awareness is associated with the pineal gland. so the development of the pineal gland in human brains was what maybe responsible for self-awareness among humans.
the development of pineal gland in the primitive mammalian brain could be caused by ....
1. natural evolution
2. alien engineered
3. an act of god
in that order of plausibility
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24-11-2011, 12:57 AM
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Everything alive in concsious to some degree, its a matter of being consious and aware enough to mke choices.
I think a good question would be, what is your definition of primordial?
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24-11-2011, 12:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Time
Everything alive in concsious to some degree, its a matter of being consious and aware enough to mke choices.
I think a good question would be, what is your definition of primordial?
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Primordal- all humans before Adam. In terms of years, if I had to quess; any humans before 40,000 years ago.
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24-11-2011, 01:00 AM
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Yes they were probably more conscious than we who call ourselves civilized.
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24-11-2011, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hybrid
the myth of adam and eve was about humans becoming self aware. ( they saw that they were naked)
self-awareness is associated with the pineal gland. so the development of the pineal gland in human brains was what maybe responsible for self-awareness among humans.
the development of pineal gland in the primitive mammalian brain could be caused by ....
1. natural evolution
2. alien engineered
3. an act of god
in that order of plausibility
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I don't believe Adam was a myth, there had to be a first man and woman with consciousness, and I think Adam and Eve were just that.
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24-11-2011, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by psychoslice
Yes they were probably more conscious than we who call ourselves civilized.
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I don't think they were conscious beings; strangely enough, I just don't know why they were like that. I mean- humans- living 200,000 years to perhaps upwards to a million years, with absolutely no advancement whatsoever! Just meanial things that animals can do. Hunt, fish, make marks on things; use tools and reproduce themselves.
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24-11-2011, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mickiel
I don't think they were conscious beings; strangely enough, I just don't know why they were like that. I mean- humans- living 200,000 years to perhaps upwards to a million years, with absolutely no advancement whatsoever! Just meanial things that animals can do. Hunt, fish, make marks on things; use tools and reproduce themselves.
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What is a conscious being to you ?, like, even a maggot is conscious, its conscious of being a maggot, it does what a maggot does.
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24-11-2011, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mickiel
Primordal- all humans before Adam. In terms of years, if I had to quess; any humans before 40,000 years ago.
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Ok in biblical terms then, there were no humans before adam.... so in that regard, the convo is ended..
In realistic terms, it depends on what type of humanoid you are talking about. Some would say when we started using tools we were concsious....
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24-11-2011, 01:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickiel
I don't think they were conscious beings; strangely enough, I just don't know why they were like that. I mean- humans- living 200,000 years to perhaps upwards to a million years, with absolutely no advancement whatsoever! Just meanial things that animals can do. Hunt, fish, make marks on things; use tools and reproduce themselves.
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but they lived in harmony with nature
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