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Old 10-10-2012, 06:04 PM
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In the Hindu [wisdom] the universe is sound. The supreme (para) brings forth existence through the Word (Shabda). Creation consists of vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes giving rise to the phenomena of the world. The purest vibrations are [hidden to the physical senses], the imperishable letters which are revealed to us imperfectly as the audible sounds and visible forms.

The seed syllable Om represents the underlying unity of reality, which is Brahman.



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Old 10-10-2012, 08:53 PM
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Quote:
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In the Hindu [wisdom] the universe is sound.
Quote:
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Creation consists of vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes giving rise to the phenomena of the world.
Wikipedia contradicts itself, i suspect unintentionally.
It's true that sound is a result from
vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes,
But there does not have to be sound for
vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes to exist.

Consider this well known koan(well, i ignorantly assume it's a koan):
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

No it does not.

Sound is a phenomenon produced by a form that can translate silent
vibrations at various frequencies into an audiable form, known as Sound.
A tree falling down, produces no sound, sound is a product of a mind and an ear.
Sound is the interpretation of silent
vibrations at various frequencies.
So, a tree falling down does not produce sound. What it produces is silent energy.

A tree, which is energy in a specific form, as it's falling down, it builds up kinetic energy, accumilates it because of the mass of it's own energy.
So when it eventually hits the ground, this accumilated energy is released, spreading out in spherical direction
simlar to waves on a lake when you throw a pebble in it, but three dimentionally...spherically as opposed to circularly.

This is an invisible and silent energy wave spreading out in all directions, which when it reaches an ear,
the ear translates that silent invisble energy wave into electrial signals/data which the mind translates into what is referred to as sound.
The sound is inside the mind, not in the environment, even though one may interpret the sound is in the environment.

However, even though a tree does not make a sound when there no one around to hear it,
the tree will make silent energy waves,
"vibrations at various frequencies" regardless of whether there is anyone there or not.

"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a silent energy wave or a vibration at a certain frequency?"
Yes.

Easliy proven by leaving a mechanical recording device while there is no one around while the tree falls,
and the silent energy wave reaches the device and is translated into silent digital info onto magnetic tape or a digital memory chip.
Then later reconstituted into a silent energy wave as that digital data is translated into electrical pulses that is fed into a speaker,
which sends out the silent energy wave for an ear to translate into the same sound you would hear if you were in the forest watching a tree fall down.

M-G likes the unity of scientific observation/understanding and spiritual observation/understandng.

So this...
Quote:
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In the Hindu [wisdom] the universe is sound.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Creation consists of vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes giving rise to the phenomena of the world.

I translate into this...
T
he universe is energy.
Physical reality, including thought and feelings, consists of energy vibrations at various frequencies and amplitudes giving rise to the phenomena of everything in life/existence.

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Old 10-11-2012, 02:49 AM
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Give yourself completely to the act of listening.
Beyond the sounds there is something greater,
a sacredness that cannot be understood through thought.


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Old 07-12-2012, 01:34 PM
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Thumbs up inner sound current

dear xan, i have read all ur posts on inner sound current. they are simply wonderful.you have touched the minute details on sound current. it is one of my fav. to know more about inner sound current. thanx for sharing the wisdom here.
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:00 PM
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Within yourself music plays without pause,
Vibrating strings are not the cause.
This music comes from the Word, says Kabir.
It pervades subtly for all to hear.
This sound divine makes the seeker free,
Then in Maya's grasp he shall no more be.

The Word is more than a simple word so plain,
Through power of the Word no bondage will remain.
The Word is soothing, melting all desires,
It douses the flames of earthly fires.

But all the words provide only pain,
No peace or truth can they help you attain.
The value of the Word no treasure comes near,
Only the true disciple knows this truth, says Kabir.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
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Within yourself music plays without pause,
Vibrating strings are not the cause.
This music comes from the Word, says Kabir.
It pervades subtly for all to hear.
This sound divine makes the seeker free,
Then in Maya's grasp he shall no more be.

The Word is more than a simple word so plain,
Through power of the Word no bondage will remain.
The Word is soothing, melting all desires,
It douses the flames of earthly fires.

But all the words provide only pain,
No peace or truth can they help you attain.
The value of the Word no treasure comes near,
Only the true disciple knows this truth, says Kabir.

Wonderful anhad ..

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:34 PM
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thanx ''GOD LIKE''................. and also thanx for nice hug.....

More On Inner Sound Meditation In Buddhism........


"Listening to the inner Sound brings the heart into a position of acute inner awareness. The Sound is always there. We don't have to create it. It is ever present. So it is a good symbol for Ultimate Reality itself." (Ajahn Amaro)

"How sweetly mysterious is the Transcendental Sound of Avalokiteshvara [Quan Yin]! Is is the subdued murmur of the sea-tide setting inward. Its mysterious Sound brings liberation and peace to all sentient beings who in their distress are calling for aid." (Surangama Sutra)

"You can experience the Sound of silence in the mind. You hear it as a kind of high frequency Sound, a ringing Sound..... When you're just with the cosmic Sound alone, there is pure attention, no sense of a person or personality, of 'me and mine'". (Ajahn Sumedho, The Sound of Silence)
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:45 PM
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Teresa of Avila (Teresa de Jesus) did not find guidance about the inner sounds in the European culture in which she grew up, so she didn't realize how she could use them in her spiritual life. She describes them clearly in her book, "The Interior Castle":

"It roars like many big rivers with waterfalls, there are flutes, and a host of little birds seems to be whistling, not in the ears, but in the upper part of the head, where the soul is said to have its special seat."
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:52 PM
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What a blessing you have come and renewed this Thread.
I wasn't aware it was mentioned in The Interior Castle, but I never
Read the entire book.
Thank you, anhad.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:55 PM
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"The mind exists as long as there is sound, but with the cessation of sounds, there is the state of being above the mind.

The sound is absorbed in the Akshara (indestructible), and the soundless state is the supreme seat.

The mind, which along with Prana has its Karmic affinities destroyed by the constant concentration upon Nada, is absorbed in the unstained One. There is no doubt about it."

(Nada Bindu Upanishad)
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