A Little About Becoming Gods Part Two

A Little About Becoming Gods Part Two


in the first part a lot was said about history. In all of this the reader will find generally two groups of humans. The first are those who were already well established on their home worlds. The second were those who eventually appeared here on Earth. There is a third category which is of interest particularly because it involves the spiritual aspects of all this in a more direct sense.


First a review. Physical matter is no more than a dense version of ethereal matter. The two are very closely related. Both of these planes are subject to the laws of evolution. The coarsest sub atomic particles represent the beginning. This is why in the primordial universe the lighter elements appeared first. Evolution continues though. What is physical eventually becomes more; it moves to a higher plane. The apex of physical matter is demonstrated when the elements, having become heavier and heavier, now are very active in a particular way. Radioactivity is the process of matter returning to it’s elemental forms in the ethereal. Kind of like recycling.

Plant live on a world is substantial on the physical and the ethereal but also on the astral planes. Plants are able to just touch the astral. They are positioned for growth in that direction.

The lesser animals on a world are all of the above but in addition they raise just a bit higher on the astral then do plants. They are slightly more conscious and can move about more freely. They are known to hunt. This is an activity peculiar to higher of the elemental forms. This statement includes animal life on the microbial level

Looking higher we find insects. There are much more advanced than anything below. In addition to all of the above they have a higher degree of functionality on the astral. They are functional on a lower group level. There is no self awareness but there is the ability to hunt and to flee danger. Their behavioral parameters are quite sophisticated when compared to the mineral worlds.

Continuing to raise our eyes now through other families of animals we find that those which we call mammals are the highest yet found. These have a much higher degree of ability to function on the astral and have the beginnings of true self awareness. These are in a way capable of ordering their own movements in the world. They have the ability to see just a little into the future. Mammals have the ability to visualize in their environments. With mammals both instinct and awareness of surroundings play a role in their lives. These are physical, ethereal, astral to a degree and higher they are beginning to have awareness on the mental plane.

Now we move to the human beings. We are physical, ethereal, astral, mental and we have the beginnings of awareness on the next several planes too. We have some innate knowledge of the divine, the buddhic and the atmic but at low levels.

In the above it is to be realized that each of the planes has varying degrees of substance. Each plane is made up of sub planes. The physical is dense, liquid and gaseous. The ethereal is much the same. The astral and above are each arranged in a series of seven subplanes. At the lower levels is the spark of awareness. In the middle are degrees of functionality and at the top is mastery. It is easy to see then that we are fully functional on the astral but are working towards masterly. We are functional on the mental but to what degree? Each of us is different. We are aware of the divine and others but again each of us is a bit different depending on our state of spiritual evolution.

A human being is physical, ethereal, astral, mental and above… During our long journey on a physical world this is where we are. When we leave here though we change. At the true ascension we leave behind the requirement for physical plane involvement. That is to say we no longer need to appear in physical bodies during an incarnation. This change is one of great import because it answers many questions that we have had about “what comes later”. We are also innately and in other ways aware of higher beings who plainly have some association with us and our worlds.

Recalling the law of correspondences and the various ways in which is is apparent to us let’s apply it again here. As the primitive humans on Earth were compared to the “gods”, the advanced human beings from afar existed side by side engaged in specific cooperative purpose there is another association. The primitives will become the advanced. The advanced will change up as well. At a certain point in our physical and spiritual evolution we will ascend. Again here we speak of ascension. What, exactly is it? Not difficult to understand since we already know about the various spiritual planes and the ways in which we interact on them. The very act of human ascension is movement from the physical to the spiritual. Where before the human being was of physical, ethereal, astral, mental, divine, buddhic, atmic and so on, now she or he is a little different. A general raising up has been effected. The advanced human being is now astral, mental, divine, buddhic, atmic and somewhat monadic too. The lower body of expression for this human being is no longer the physical but the higher astral. The Earth’s astral plane is a concentric sheath surrounding our planet extending about 26 thousand miles from the physical surface. In this are seven sub planes of expression. In the higher of these, if we were to go there to have a look, we would find lands that were much Earth like except that they were of a higher order. The colors are brighter. The forms are more distinct. The people that we would meet would seem to be surrounded by light. Here is a land, near to the Earth, where there is no discord, no competitiveness, no adversity, no jealousy, no anger, no greed etc etc. Indeed this is the heaven that our religions teach us about. The human beings that reside here are those who have finished with the physical and who have decided to stay with the Earth to serve the younger ones who are yet below, on the Earth’s surface. Here, too, we all visit during those times between incarnations. Here are the guides of the planet. This land is where the master Jesus went when he ascended. From this land is where He came when He appeared to the disciples “in the upper room”. It is from this place that those who appear to dense human beings come from. The angels who appear surrounded by brilliant light come from here. Moses, Mary, and later Mohammad had visitations from these. Michael, who we know so well, abides here in service to humanity. In the higher reaches of this plane we will find the great spiritual hierarchy of the planet at the head of which is the World Teacher, the Christ. (this is not meant to advance any particular religion) In our times it continues. The girls at Fatima were another example of a visit by an ascended human being. In this case it was Mary, the temporal mother of Jesus. They bring messages of comfort. They bring teachings. They, as human beings of light (highest astral plane matter) have the ability to change down into the denser ethereal at will. In this form they can be seen by us through our physical eyes. The higher among them can also take on physical bodies for specific purpose. There is a little more included in this. There are those on Earth who are in communication with ascended human beings who happen to live on other worlds. Those who channel masters from other star systems are included in this. It is accomplished through links, the astral planes from afar to ours near to home. The traveling between takes a few moments. As a review here remember that we have been speaking of the Astral plane in particular. But those who we find there have awareness on higher planes too. Much higher than those most of us are aware of. The scale of planes is one of first awareness then functional ability on each, higher and higher. This is a little about the mechanics of spiritual advancement.

The above further illustrates the processes of evolution. It is both physical and “spiritual”. We see also that as our familiar astrological arrangement sets our stage for work here on Earth through the constant radiation of rays of conditioning energies from outside it also is expressed through these visitations from ascended human beings from the very same places which are otherwise well known to us in that ancient science.

Life is a continuous movement upward. The completion of today is only a milestone of tomorrow. And, most importantly, we do not live in isolation here on Earth. We do continually interact with our elder brothers and sisters. The primitives on Earth long ago witnessed the activities of the others. They did not understand. They saw familiar forms but ones that were much more capable than they were. The were so often afraid. This is the way it was in the Land of Nod in Genesis. Those folks saw visitors from the “Garden” as being “gods” to them. But then these “gods” set aside their directives and decided to move into more permanent association with the Earth humans. They intermingled and bred with them. These stories we all have heard. In our times there are others who we are aware of too. Those of us who can manage to raise our vibes a little higher can see these ascended human beings or more often hear them. In semi trance we can manage to connect and communicate with them in their own high astral lands. All of this interaction with the “Lands of Light” (the higher astral world which is right here with our Earth and other worlds too) are easily accessible to the sensitive man or woman.

All of the above information applies to us for only one reason. It serves, in this time of astrological transition from one age to the next, to provide us with the tools of understanding. Who we are. Where we came from. A little about the various processes and techniques and finally a glimpse of our own futures.

There is a last bit of interesting information for us. The astral plane has within it both heaven and hell. In the lower sub planes are those areas where we spend time to cleanse ourselves following a lifetime in which we did not behave ourselves. The higher subplanes, but not the highest, is the ordinary heaven to which the “believers” aspire. This is the land wherein we meet our ancestors or friends who passed before us. Here is where those who have an NDE have a brief sojourn.

We can all go to this land whenever we want. All that we have to do is to raise our vibrations adequately. Remembering that our chakras are those energetic devices which connect us to the spiritual worlds we can use one or another of them to establish the desired link. When a religiously devout person has such an experience he or she will connect through the solar plexus and heart then come back starry eyed saying they met god or Jesus. When a scientist does the same with the head centers he or she will suddenly receive insights which will reveal higher physical truths. This is where scientific advancement comes from. The philosopher makes connection more fully than any other. This human being is shown reasons for things. He or she becomes more aware. All of those who have such experiences write about them. We then read but because we have the inherent inclination for divisiveness we too often fail in our attempts to find a cohesive whole to it all. Because of this we persist in our inability to reconcile with each other. This is the underlying reason for discord on the Earth.

Those who are active on forums like this one have taken at least the first steps towards the future which awaits us all.

To any who might like to achieve a better, clearer depiction of what is given we suggest constructing a chart showing relationships, the Earth to the Astral. Use colors to differentiate sub planes. Insert notes which make clear the associations. Then apply what is seen to yourself. Where do we belong? What areas do we have access to? The single very best thing that any of us can do to bring visions of these higher human worlds is to learn and practice spiritual silence. In this way our lower selves are set aside and we soar to the heights finding wonders previously unknown…

Those things that are presented here apply to us all. We all will achieve not only knowledge of but degrees of functionality and then mastery on those planes which are spoken of herein. To become gods, each of us, is our destiny. We are, right now, becoming gods.

Forgive the long and more than a little convoluted theme. The ideas race by too quickly and often not in any particular or logical order. We have to make sense of it all as we can.

This information comes to us through a group of souls via both Bartholomew and he who expressed on Earth as Plato long ago.


Sincerely,

Bartholomew and others.

[Moonglow]

Hello Bartholomew and other/James,

Read through what is presented and must admit takes some doing on my part to fully grasp all that is written. So, sharing some thoughts at present.

It comes across as a laying out not so much as "becoming Gods" as it is the layers of creation. The intricate connection and basis which seems intertwined.

Brings to mind that all is connected in some ways and has it's affects upon one, whether one is conscious of it or not.

Brings a further curiosity to mind as to why one may feel drawn to or inspired to delve deeper and wider in understanding just who we are and how we came to be.

Understanding that what you all present may be taken as a spiritual level, it brings further confirmation, to me that all is spiritual.

It places in mind for me that in the divine act of creation everything has it place and purpose for being.

I feel through becoming more aware of the connections, one can be aware of oneself as being of one self.

For me it is not so much as becoming more Godly or a God myself , as it is becoming and working upon connecting with life here and through that realizing more and more that divinity lays in all. Atleast at the base/foundation.

What is presented by you all also shows the continuance of life. Not only as physical beings, but as spirit as well.

I feel at this time humans may try at times too hard to be God like. We have that divinity already with in us, as I see it.

I feel it helps humans to first understand what it is to be human and through this may bring further understanding towards each other and the relationships with other beings here. Through this may realize the interconnection which seem to flow through life itself. Through this may very well come to understand that the God sought has, is, and forever be the energy that flows through us and all creation above and below.

Just sharing some thoughts that come to me at present.

With respect and thanks to you all.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hello Bartholomew and other/James,

Read through what is presented and must admit takes some doing on my part to fully grasp all that is written. So, sharing some thoughts at present.

It comes across as a laying out not so much as "becoming Gods" as it is the layers of creation. The intricate connection and basis which seems intertwined.

Brings to mind that all is connected in some ways and has it's affects upon one, whether one is conscious of it or not.

Brings a further curiosity to mind as to why one may feel drawn to or inspired to delve deeper and wider in understanding just who we are and how we came to be.

Understanding that what you all present may be taken as a spiritual level, it brings further confirmation, to me that all is spiritual.

It places in mind for me that in the divine act of creation everything has it place and purpose for being.

I feel through becoming more aware of the connections, one can be aware of oneself as being of one self.

For me it is not so much as becoming more Godly or a God myself , as it is becoming and working upon connecting with life here and through that realizing more and more that divinity lays in all. Atleast at the base/foundation.

What is presented by you all also shows the continuance of life. Not only as physical beings, but as spirit as well.

I feel at this time humans may try at times too hard to be God like. We have that divinity already with in us, as I see it.

I feel it helps humans to first understand what it is to be human and through this may bring further understanding towards each other and the relationships with other beings here. Through this may realize the interconnection which seem to flow through life itself. Through this may very well come to understand that the God sought has, is, and forever be the energy that flows through us and all creation above and below.

Just sharing some thoughts that come to me at present.

With respect and thanks to you all.

What is implied through history but not clearly stated is that we evolve into a higher human expression in time. This is one aspect of what is commonly known as ascension. There are those now who have achieved this state of being. They could leave the Earth and humanity behind but choose to stay near. They These are they who come and go into the physical at will. There are some on the Earth who are fully capable in this area. These are the "gods" of the old stories. The historical aspects serve to provide background which helps to refresh our intuitive abilities. Can we manage to access genetic memories and find the larger truth?

I read all this and pondered how it fitted with my views of the ecology, of which we're just another species in the culture dish along with plants, other organic life like "animals" resting on non-organic bases (according to our definitions). We're part of "the system," everything functionally related. The first awareness I can find documented is Jesus telling Mary "everything works together."

We really don't know whether animals and for that matter plants can be or are spiritual energies. Our ignorance extends to believing that because they don't speak English (or whatever language) and can't describe their emotions, if they have them, they haven't conscious awareness nor that they communicate nor have social controls; and how they act with regard to the astral. No amount of argument can inform us. We observe, we assume. Above all, and wrongly we assume that humans are superior to other forms of organic action; that we alone have access to the astral if we find the gateways.

We can plunder the ecology with a presumed purpose more than other animals and most plants admittedly...yet we can't easily adapt to change arising from our machinations. Like many animals we've built an environment that protects us from predators of other species without realising that the ecology in its entirety is a predator. (Ironically the smallest of organic elements, a bacterium or virus can wipe out swathes of humanity but that's beside the point.) We are still dominated by the environment. We can't stop earthquakes or the increasing ravages of climate change. We are still vulnerable to the messes we produce as byproducts of "progress" and we never learn.

I hold Nature in great respect, recognising myself as just another part of it and aware of what it provides that I may survive. I also recognise that humans have adjusted the ecology to almost certainly shorten my life here, not that that matters in itself. When it's my time to go, I'll go. I do believe that such awareness is inspired by the god within me.

So I respect your views but can't submit to them. Many of your declarations are factoids, you state them as if fact when they are assumptions at best. Good proselyting for those looking for something to believe but misleading in presenting humans with unique properties. We probably haven't. Without the ecology we'd die out pretty instantly. We don't rule it much as we think we do. We adjust it. It responds...with increasing hostility toward us by the look of things. I doubt our relationship with it is different on any plane.

I once thought that humans were the planet's cancer, incapable of harmony with Nature because they believe they're the boss. Now I believe we play our precise part - from the outset sowing the seeds of our own end. Does it matter? Not really. We'll come to that end. Organic life might be brought to end (though I doubt it) and that really is all part of the cosmic process. The gnostic has to concern her/himself with what happens next stripped of all sentiment and emotion that arises from fear of dying. Is the attenuation of our emotions the eventual route to ascension, the end product of disassociating ourselves from our basic drives?

We humans were short-changed. Whatever created the system limited our perception, curtailed our senses. Perhaps an expansion is possible for some of us, (like e.g. we can all develop psychic senses to a degree at least). But then as just another entity in that petri dish, should we expect to find out what the experimenter's really looking at... any more than a bacterium in a petri dish in a human laboratory wanting to know why it's there?

Interesting....

I agree that truth is fluid... Interesting response.

[linen53]

Lol, I didn't know Bartholomew was Plato. We have a star!

Thanks for this James. You and Bart do such a good job explaining things. I learned exactly where I will go after this lifetime: Into that group you mentioned in my reading that will continue to help Earth and it's inhabitants albeit a grasshopper in status, lol.

Thanks for the nice response Please read PM for further explanation. James

Originally Posted by linen53

Lol, I didn't know Bartholomew was Plato. We have a star!

Thanks for this James. You and Bart do such a good job explaining things. I learned exactly where I will go after this lifetime: Into that group you mentioned in my reading that will continue to help Earth and it's inhabitants albeit a grasshopper in status, lol.

[running]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

What is implied through history but not clearly stated is that we evolve into a higher human expression in time. This is one aspect of what is commonly known as ascension. There are those now who have achieved this state of being. They could leave the Earth and humanity behind but choose to stay near. They These are they who come and go into the physical at will. There are some on the Earth who are fully capable in this area. These are the "gods" of the old stories. The historical aspects serve to provide background which helps to refresh our intuitive abilities. Can we manage to access genetic memories and find the larger truth?

personal experience is where the ideas of higher and lower. here better than there. and all are valid imo.

where the story/thread is missing is about consciousness. which is in all things. in all planes. in all times. within all circumstances.

where do ideas come from in reguards to prefernces? again from personal experince. all valid imo.

when spirit unravels itself from being bounded to boundless a fundamental shift happens for the individual. everything turns on its head. where as it was all about before becomes then more about where its now heading. circumstances ruled the previous playground. consciousness rules the coming playground. from bound to boundless in nature makes for enjoyment and peace in the face of the circumstances. a paradox. bliss is a function of tuning into something beyond the normal senses. expressing herself through the nervous system. silence expressing himself in the mind peacefully.

this response isn't intended to take away from anything really so much. but to bring forth what wasn't brought up. the other aspects. divine masuline. divine feminine. bliss. silence. shakti. shiva. holy spirit. or whatever names that have been used throughout history.

again to be clear. everything matters in my view. yet there is a fundamental shift. and a living paradox.

[Moonglow]

Originally Posted by bartholomew

What is implied through history but not clearly stated is that we evolve into a higher human expression in time. This is one aspect of what is commonly known as ascension. There are those now who have achieved this state of being. They could leave the Earth and humanity behind but choose to stay near. They These are they who come and go into the physical at will. There are some on the Earth who are fully capable in this area. These are the "gods" of the old stories. The historical aspects serve to provide background which helps to refresh our intuitive abilities. Can we manage to access genetic memories and find the larger truth?

Sure we can manage to access genetic memories and find the larger truth, as. I see the potentials that are with in us.

I feel to understand our history helps to further understand ourselves. Where we have been and eventually our basic makeup and origins.

I feel some just look at the solid physical form, but we are also energy/Spirit, aren't we? Spirit can and does manifest to interact in many ways through nature, as I see it. The time taken by you to present the basic lay out of this, as best I can understand at present. Which may take me some time to process.

So, just present as it comes to me at present and thank you for your response.

Find it fascinating

Consciousness is not the result of anything, of any set of conditions. It is a principle unto itself. On the physical plane even the smallest sub atomic particle is, to a degree, conscious. Before the physical or any of the lower spiritual planes (densities to some) existed consciousness was.

We often hear of people having similar ideas at around the same time even though they are separated in the world. All thoughts that a person or animal has take substantive form in both the mid astral and lower or mid mental planes. Then.... any other who is "tuned in" can access those. Sometimes this is done wilfully as in the case of a psychic channeling with specific intent or sometimes it happens by chance. Every thought that every human being ever had resulted in an astral plane double being created. There is much more to say about this though.

Paradoxes exist only where understanding is absent because of incomplete realizations. As we raise ourselves higher and higher the paradoxes that were vanish to be replaced by new ones which, in turn, also eventually fade. Since from our very limited human point of view the idea of infinity seems unknowable, this is as close as present as we can come to any truly high awareness. The highest master soul near to our world is also eventually limited in his or her understanding.

"Spirit" when in association with the Earth is likewise limited. The spiritual worlds that we Earth humans have access to is limited to our local system which exists in the great mind of our "supreme being" which is the great one whose body of expression is our sun. This being is in communion with others of his kind. Our sun is a part of a constellation of stars each with a similar being. It is this fact which lays behind the validity of astrology. Without such "gods" there would be no possible way for any star or planet to have any effect on a human being. We live and exist through our sun. Likewise our sun lives and exists through a greater authority in the galaxy. What this means is that we may consider that being in spirit confers boundlessness but this is true only from the physical standpoint. In truth spiritual entities are likewise bounded by their own positions in evolution. There exists in the spiritual worlds a strict hierarchy of beings and very specific boundaries. When we here on Earth speak of spiritual planes we are indirectly referring to these. In general the highest plane that a human can be aware of is that which we call the Divine. For our purposes this is sufficient. Below and within the influence of this are the increasing divisions which result in, at the lower levels, the separation of the sexes. Above the Divine and worlds which are available only in hints to the highest of our master souls here around the Earth. But as they achieve we do likewise. Again this is limited by the idea of infinity which results when an imperfect mind reaches too high. It is a false doctrine but from our viewpoint it doesn't seem so. Is this another paradox which will someday be found out? Probably.

Originally Posted by running

personal experience is where the ideas of higher and lower. here better than there. and all are valid imo.

where the story/thread is missing is about consciousness. which is in all things. in all planes. in all times. within all circumstances.

where do ideas come from in reguards to prefernces? again from personal experince. all valid imo.

when spirit unravels itself from being bounded to boundless a fundamental shift happens for the individual. everything turns on its head. where as it was all about before becomes then more about where its now heading. circumstances ruled the previous playground. consciousness rules the coming playground. from bound to boundless in nature makes for enjoyment and peace in the face of the circumstances. a paradox. bliss is a function of tuning into something beyond the normal senses. expressing herself through the nervous system. silence expressing himself in the mind peacefully.

this response isn't intended to take away from anything really so much. but to bring forth what wasn't brought up. the other aspects. divine masuline. divine feminine. bliss. silence. shakti. shiva. holy spirit. or whatever names that have been used throughout history.

again to be clear. everything matters in my view. yet there is a fundamental shift. and a living paradox.