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05-07-2013, 04:30 PM
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Knower
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Location: Norfolk, UK
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The Nature of Evil
What the nature of evil, is it open to interpretation according to ones perception, or it is state of mind, a set of moral parameters, or from a spiritual perspective, a energy source of some kind?
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05-07-2013, 05:41 PM
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I'm tending to think nowadays that evil is fear of love. Tom Campbell says the opposite of love is fear and I think this makes sense but I'm not sure I know how to explain this.
I imagine God as a sun and His light is love. The absence of His light is fear. Those that fear love create hate and are in darkness until they chose to let the light in.
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05-07-2013, 07:08 PM
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Guide
Join Date: Jul 2011
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All evil is the product of mankinds minds.
No evil whatsoever comes from the Divine.
All humans have free will------hence evil.
In pure light and truth.
Krishna
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07-07-2013, 12:46 AM
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Guide
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Health is the Measure of Good & Evil.
What is Beneficial to One's Health is Good.
What is Detrimental to One's Health is Bad.
The Greater Good is Seeing Good as Healthy and Seeing Bad as Unhealthy, and Acting Accordingly With Love of Self & Others.
Evil is Purposefully Doing Unhealthy Actions, Especially Towards Another Being.
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07-07-2013, 01:12 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
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In reality there is no such thing as evil, but because we all got to live together, and everyone wants to live in peace, we then have rules called good and bad, but in themselves they don't exist.
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A belief system is nothing but poison to your capacity to understand. Good words are used to hide ugly things. – Osho
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07-07-2013, 03:43 AM
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Guide
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I personally see it as an expression of duality, as separation from source.
When a creation allows for the experience of not remembering one's true origin and nature as source, e.g. a mind consciousness system, as a human being, there will exists a potential for curruption in moments where true clarity is absent, which may evolve into patterns of sustained self-destruction, lack of moral understanding, and / or incapacity of sympathy.
In other words, there is no true source of evil in existence, but the experience and observation of what is possible when a being is allowed to experience separation from source on a platform of duality. So if the platform of duality per se did not exist, there would be no experiences of polarity to source, as wholeness, as love, and thus no expressions of evil.
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07-07-2013, 12:46 PM
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Argument 1:
God created Everything.
God is Absolute Good.
Therefore God created everything with Absolute Good.
Therefore Everything is Absolutely Good.
Therefore Evil doesn't exist.
Argument 2:
Evil obviously exists.
Therefore there is a flaw somewhere in Argument 1.
1) God did not create Everything. There is another force out there that created Evil.
2) God is not Absolute Good. He does not want only good for us but also wants us to suffer.
3) God used something else as part of creation than Himself, allowing evil to exist for the purpose of Absolute Good (Lesser evil leading to Greater good)
4) Everything WAS Absolute Good at creation but now things exist which are not Absolute Good. (ie. from human Free Will... which was created by God yet somehow can create evil?)
5) Evil exists and is beyond logic so why bother making an argument about it.
All five of these arguments are logically valid.
As far as I understand things, number 3 speaks to me more. God created the universe out of Himself and out of Nothing. Thus there is the dychotomy of Exist vs. Don't Exist. Choosing to Exist is choosing good, choosing to not exist is choosing Evil. Making choices which improve your power to exist and/or the power of others to exist is good. Making choices which limit your power of existence, your interaction with reality or limit/reduce/remove the existence of others is evil.
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08-07-2013, 05:48 PM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I would say:
Evil = ignorance of spirituality.
The evil minded has their mind set on the futile things or futile joys of the materialistic world. Those that understand spirituality know that the thing that matters most, the greatest joy, is immaterial: love.
Fear = Absence of love.
When there is no understanding of love, it's because love may be absent. We fear things we don't understand or have no acquaintance with. Love is everything that matters for our souls. Those that do not know love, therefore, are lost and those who are lost know only fear.
Hate = Fear of love.
We hate the things we fear. Fear blocks us from love and the only expression left for that which isn't understood, and for the discomfort it leaves, is to hate it.
Love = the nature of God. He wants us to remember that we came from Him, that we are love. We develop spiritually by remembering and being what we truly are: love.
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08-07-2013, 06:14 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Evil -Lack of Light, of Illumination, ignorance, the truth not revealed by the light, Light hidden, Illusion of separation from Oneness.
The Opposite is Love, Illumination, light casting away the dark corners of fear of the unknown, nothing remains hidden in the internal dark, all is exposed and becomes Love.
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09-07-2013, 01:18 AM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: In Life
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Mathematical understanding .
Life come with freedom , Humans are free therefor freedom without wisdom
remain a lack of understanding , the absence of consciousness.
Time and experiences is just like an equation .
Time an illusion ? Yes . but the present always will be .
1+1=2 .
Now what is EVIL ?
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