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04-03-2017, 05:02 AM
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Guide
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Originally Posted by jimrich
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My take on it is that I already am That but I was programmed, by other programmed folks, to believe that I am a limited, separate person in a world of other separate, limited persons/objects and so I LOST my original sense of Oneness or Unity (not-two) at a very early age. I've been "seeking" for a long time and now, thanks to the new teachers like Tony, I can see that I never lost anything and always was and always will be That or whatever it's called. This is it!
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And for you, what are the practical, real life implications and results of this insight?
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04-03-2017, 03:28 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Originally Posted by jimrich
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I'd be interested in reading more about your "spiritual mentor" and the process that you engaged in on the way to awakening or whatever happened.
Thanks,
jim
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My teacher avoided publicity and there is very little written about her. However, Linda Johnson was able to interview her sufficiently to include her in the book, Living Women Saints of India.
https://books.google.com/books?id=AC...shakti&f=false
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20-03-2017, 12:01 PM
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Master
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Location: West Wales. u.k
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Maybe all versions are useful when the different character of seekers is taken into account. The different versions become an issue when they have to be defended by believers who hold their particular version to be the true one and the others false. The more vehement the allegation of falseness, the more insecure the belief.
Why seekers resonate with one version rather than another may depend on the character. For example a mind that is used to successfully solving problems may prefer a version that offers something to do, a practice, while minds that fail to find solutions may select a version that requires nothing as some Neo Advaita versions would have it.
Horses for courses as they say racing.
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21-11-2017, 06:08 AM
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21-11-2017, 07:17 AM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 10,861
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Originally Posted by Iamit
Maybe all versions are useful when the different character of seekers is taken into account. The different versions become an issue when they have to be defended by believers who hold their particular version to be the true one and the others false. The more vehement the allegation of falseness, the more insecure the belief.
Why seekers resonate with one version rather than another may depend on the character. For example a mind that is used to successfully solving problems may prefer a version that offers something to do, a practice, while minds that fail to find solutions may select a version that requires nothing as some Neo Advaita versions would have it.
Horses for courses as they say racing.
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So much of THIS!
Of course you all know by now that I am a traditional Advaitin and for the past week I have been busy saying how everything that could be said about the subject already HAS been, some 2,000 years ago.
That being said, if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method. Who cares if you travel to Arunachala using a taxi or a bullock-cart?...as long as it doesn't break down and you arrive there is the main thing.
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22-11-2017, 12:00 PM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: UK
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method.
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(Applause emoticon)
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23-11-2017, 05:43 AM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: West Wales. u.k
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
So much of THIS!
Of course you all know by now that I am a traditional Advaitin and for the past week I have been busy saying how everything that could be said about the subject already HAS been, some 2,000 years ago.
That being said, if people come to the direct realisation of Brahman studying 'Winnie-The-Poo' that's also fine. It's the realisation that matters, not the method. Who cares if you travel to Arunachala using a taxi or a bullock-cart?...as long as it doesn't break down and you arrive there is the main thing.
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Yes but it is also worth noting that not all seekers describe the destination of the search in the same way. Realization of what? For some it is the end of feeling disconnected. That will not be enough for others. Each can be respected.
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23-11-2017, 06:13 AM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2015
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Originally Posted by Iamit
Yes but it is also worth noting that not all seekers describe the destination of the search in the same way. Realization of what? For some it is the end of feeling disconnected. That will not be enough for others. Each can be respected.
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For some, it is also 'Satchitananda'...existence/truth, consciousness and bliss. The destination is beyond description anyway, so even if anybody tries to describe it, it will be 'nope, that ain't it'...and yet, that's the only thing that everybody can agree upon despite their methodology of attainment.
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23-11-2017, 07:03 AM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: West Wales. u.k
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
For some, it is also 'Satchitananda'...existence/truth, consciousness and bliss. The destination is beyond description anyway, so even if anybody tries to describe it, it will be 'nope, that ain't it'...and yet, that's the only thing that everybody can agree upon despite their methodology of attainment.
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Yes and no doubt there are many more descriptions of the destination. So be I say and lets respect all.
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