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Old 16-10-2016, 12:41 AM
George-Ananda George-Ananda is offline
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Abraham-Hicks Questions

I am into much of the things here on Spiritual Forums, but this Abraham-Hicks thing just doesn't sit well with me but there are people I respect who seem very positive to it. So I'm trying to resolve my confusion.

Is it really helpful for the average person to think of themselves as co-creators of things typically considered random? Or is it better to be non-attached to events and just do our duty with wisdom.

Does ones fortune (on things generally considered beyond our control) really change by focusing on intentions on what we want to manifest?

Aren't we happier with dispassion/detachment to our desires?

I'm sure there are cases where the method works and doesn't work.

Miss H mentioned that co-creating stops people from feeling like victims. Aren't they better off by not focusing on desires but on detachment and being happy with whatever?
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:32 AM
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Hi,
This is a very common question. Why?
Because of different belief systems.

You have on one hand the belief in Christianity, Buddhism and other religions that desires are bad or
the cause of suffering...or that
poverty is better than being wealthy.
I think we can agree.

Then, we have belief systems that would say...this place is a playground, a gift from God...so ENJOY!
Desires are not the cause of suffering...unfulfilled desires are, LOL!
Just as guns do not kill...it's the person...they could push you out a window instead of shoot you!
Money is not the cause of suffering or the root of evil...it is the
attachment to it...or thinking it and materialism is the answer or
source of True happiness. When it is not.

We are co-creating children of the Creator.
Do you really believe 'He' created us to live in a lotus position
meditating, eating from one bowl our whole lives?
Imagine billions doing this. No.

We are here to expand, grow, play, to bring back information to
the Supreme Godhead...as part of the One...we are to discover and desire and learn all we can.
(Oh, I should have said that is my belief system...and many others.)

So if a person's belief is to be austere and not have desires ...
then this Abraham-Hicks business is not for them.
Simple.

However, what that person thinks and believes and expects will still be drawn to the person
the same as to anyone.
We are just told by Abraham...we can be deliberate in our drawing
things to us...happiness, decent finances, good relationships, whatever it is we want or need.

Abraham is not into 'you must have pain to gain' or that denying ourselves
pleasures or comforts is the way to live this wonderful life!

However, if one does believe in not having desires ...all well and good!
They may have been a fat, greedy King in another life...and this one, they have chosen a more austere Path.
It's all good.

All these Paths still lead to Home. Whatever, floats your boat this time around.
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Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 17-10-2016, 12:05 PM
Nameless Nameless is offline
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I like Miss H's answer, as always. She is my guru :) She seems always to be in alignment. I have only been working with these concepts for a few years and I find that the better I feel, the better my day goes.

In my life there are 2 major things that I can do that help make my day better. The problem is, I do these in the morning in my car on the way to work, and I forget when I don't have to go in in the morning - I live with other people too, so on Saturday and Sunday, when I am not driving in my car doing my pre-paving of my day, and just drinking my coffee and forget to get into appreciating my coffee, etc etc, it doesn't take much to get me "wobbling".

The 2 major things that help make my day better is when I first wake up, trying to get into appreciation before I get out of bed. The second is a little exercise i do on my way to work, to prepave my day. I guess it's my driving meditation, but by the time I get to work I feel great. (Now I know I need to do that on the weekends without the car LOL).

A-H is all about feelings. Getting out of the head and back into the feeling place of our lives. A-H teaches about LOA, and how our feelings are tied to that.

Detachment is definately more of coming from a mind place. I agree that A-H teaches about detachment as well. A-H teaches about RE-action to the things that are happening around us. If you can detach from things that are none of your business ... i.e. other people's problems... and RE-alize that they are none of your concern, I think that that is where detachment can help. Your not focusing your attention on someone else's business, and if you can do that, you get a lot less of the co-creation with others business that is none of your business. And so, detachment is a large part of A-H. Placing your focus on what you are feeling in your present moment and caring how you feel will help stop LOA bringing you things that don't serve you.

If you can get to a place where you are in Joy and Happiness as much as you possibly can be (and believe it or not that is easier than is sounds LOL - it is just appreciating where you are in each moment and feeling how much you appreciate where you are and how much you love yourself and who you are with and what you are doing and why you are doing it) then the things that you don't want to show up in your life fall away, and the things that you are emotionally drawn to start appearing.

So they teach you to get deliberate with what you want, to be pickier about what you want, to practice the feelings of having what you want, so that when you are consistently in that higher vibration, you can appreciate that you have everything that you want.

It's a strange thing, but we all have everything that we want, we just may not be able to see it from the vibration that we are currently on. When we raise our vibration slowly and surely each day and can consistently be joyful and happy, it is all there. The easy button. It is all around us, it is just in a different vibratory place. So it's not about the money, or the lover, or whatever it is we think that we want, it is about the feelings of having what we want.

When we believe it, we will see it.

I'd put a happy face here, but I used the Quick Reply function and they are not "appearing"...it's not on my vibration :) Ramblings of an early morning riser...And it's raining on what was to be the first day of my roof replacement! Hmmmm.
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Old 17-10-2016, 03:16 PM
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Hi Nameless...I knew you would have a good post.

I'm going to give you my free unsolicited advice!...
Bec I know you will like it...That is, remember your words are so important...
'Try' is a good one to be on your No-no List...along with worry and
unbelievable and impossible.

Like Yoda said...Do, there is no try.
It's a loophole for the subconscious to latch onto.


Soldiers don't try ...they do, they follow what needs to be done
like the warriors they are.
And, now I'm really going off on a tangent...we have, for awhile, got a
battlefield between our ears...until we settle things down in there.
So words are very important as we are learning to
deliberately make our intentions clear to our minds and to the Universe.

May I suggest getting some Selenite to clear your aura, very inexpensive bec there is
so much of it, but very powerful...you can keep it
in the car even ...and before you go into work swish it all around.
It's like taking a Chakra shower...I made that up. :)
Also, if you had a bad day...cleanse before you go into the house!
You'll see a big difference like unloading negativity outside the door.

It's my new thing. I love it! Look it up online for more info...the youtubes are great.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 17-10-2016, 04:09 PM
George-Ananda George-Ananda is offline
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Hi,
This is a very common question. Why?
Because of different belief systems.

You have on one hand the belief in Christianity, Buddhism and other religions that desires are bad or
the cause of suffering...or that
poverty is better than being wealthy.
I think we can agree.

Then, we have belief systems that would say...this place is a playground, a gift from God...so ENJOY!
Desires are not the cause of suffering...unfulfilled desires are, LOL!
Just as guns do not kill...it's the person...they could push you out a window instead of shoot you!
Money is not the cause of suffering or the root of evil...it is the
attachment to it...or thinking it and materialism is the answer or
source of True happiness. When it is not.

We are co-creating children of the Creator.
Do you really believe 'He' created us to live in a lotus position
meditating, eating from one bowl our whole lives?
Imagine billions doing this. No.

We are here to expand, grow, play, to bring back information to
the Supreme Godhead...as part of the One...we are to discover and desire and learn all we can.
(Oh, I should have said that is my belief system...and many others.)

So if a person's belief is to be austere and not have desires ...
then this Abraham-Hicks business is not for them.
Simple.

However, what that person thinks and believes and expects will still be drawn to the person
the same as to anyone.
We are just told by Abraham...we can be deliberate in our drawing
things to us...happiness, decent finances, good relationships, whatever it is we want or need.

Abraham is not into 'you must have pain to gain' or that denying ourselves
pleasures or comforts is the way to live this wonderful life!

However, if one does believe in not having desires ...all well and good!
They may have been a fat, greedy King in another life...and this one, they have chosen a more austere Path.
It's all good.

All these Paths still lead to Home. Whatever, floats your boat this time around.
Thank you for the thoughtful response.

At least now I am clear that there isn't something about this that was totally missing in my understanding. Yes, I am into many of the spiritual things here, but A-H and other prosperity type teachings are not things for me.

I guess I am happier just being an observer of the passing clouds of earth-plane existence rather than concerning myself with fortunes beyond my immediate control. Also, the skeptic in me doubts the ability of an average person to co-create reality. Bad things happening to good people will probably still occur at a similar rate. The roses and the arrows all have their place in propelling us forward in the long run.

Nice to meet you, and I am sure we will talk more on this and other subjects.
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Old 17-10-2016, 05:36 PM
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Exactly Miss H!
This life experience is Heaven or Hell and anything in-between we choose.
We make it with our every thought and desire into the experience we will have.
Our thoughts added to emotion are the Alchemy which unfolds our reality (Law of Attraction/ Like vibration attracts like vibration)

In the Great Allness of the Field of Consciousness of All That Is, every reality created is precious - the Saints, the crack head, the embezzler, the musician, the single struggling mother, the healer, the cripple, the drunk, the soldier, the Wanderer....all are Consciousness/ the Divine exploring the myriad of ways to expand and experience itself, all are experience - all are precious!

As sparks of the Divine, we only have to choose our experience, our preference, it matters not to the Divine - all are valuable!
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Old 17-10-2016, 05:49 PM
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Pssst George....you can create your reality consciously if you want. It's not one bit important that you do though. You came here to this planet to play the part of being a human to explore consciousness from this place, and that alone is enough, there is no need to do or be anything more than that. :)

Three Cheers to Selenite!
Call it the Fire Hose of High Frequency! It's actually the second highest occurring frequency on the planet at 244.5 Mhz (Healthy human body functions at 68-72 Hz for comparison)

Kyanite is the Vacuum cleaner of the mineral kingdom
It cleans out all negative, stagnate and chaotic frequency's and any frequency lower than it. It also doesn't need cleaning and doesn't hold negative energies. It also instantly cuts energy attachments to others and opens the chakras.

A spiritually healthy daily routine is swooping Kyanite through the aura with the intention to clean the auric field, then along the body, then holding it in front of each chakra to open it. Then pick up the Selenite and do the same to replace all removed lower frequency's with 244.5 Mhz.
Weeee! Clean, Sparkly and Feeling GOOD!

Last edited by CrystalSong : 17-10-2016 at 08:11 PM.
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Old 17-10-2016, 07:45 PM
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Dang, CrystalSong, I want some of that...putting it on my wishlist... Kyanite and Selenite.
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Old 17-10-2016, 08:09 PM
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Quote:
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This life experience is Heaven or Hell and anything in-between we choose.
We make it with our every thought and desire into the experience we will have.
Our thoughts added to emotion are the Alchemy which unfolds our reality (Law of Attraction/ Like vibration attracts like vibration)

In the Great Allness of the Field of Consciousness of All That Is, every reality created is precious - the Saints, the crack head, the embezzler, the musician, the single struggling mother, the healer, the cripple, the drunk, the soldier, the Wanderer....all are Consciousness/ the Divine exploring the myriad of ways to expand and experience itself, all are experience - all are precious!

As sparks of the Divine, we only have to choose our experience, our preference, it matters not to the Divine - all are valuable!

Well said.




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Dang, CrystalSong, I want some of that...putting it on my wishlist... Kyanite and Selenite.

Lol, Right. On my amazon wish list. Kyanite is not too pricey either, about 16.00 per 1/2 pound.
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Old 17-10-2016, 08:24 PM
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I was checking too Clover but things are a tad (well more than a tad) rough and tight at the Sarian household at the moment :-(

Will have to wait until march I think! But I can dream and wish for now!
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