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12-03-2013, 11:43 PM
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Everyone on this thread is very special in my opinion to stick it out here!
As Robert said, he is speaking to those that "want" to remember.
That is a big compliment guys.
This thread reminds me how funny it is to try and get anwers that the logical mind loves.
It kinda doesn't happen....
My old guru was asked, "What happens after death."
Him: "Die and see."
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Him. "Many of u here were dragged here by a friend.
You're thinking I just want your money.
You know what? Don't give me any."
Robert speaks that double speak the logical mind just wants to scream when it hears.
Believe me I know.
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What's the sound of one hand clapping? ~ asked by a Zen Master.
:::: Do you get it? I never did in my early 20s....now I know the answer and why the question was asked. Ha!
Throw logic outta the window.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-03-2013, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Everyone on this thread is very special in my opinion to stick it out here!
As Robert said, he is speaking to those that "want" to remember.
That is a big compliment guys.
This thread reminds me how funny it is to try and get anwers that the logical mind loves.
It kinda doesn't happen....
My old guru was asked, "What happens after death."
Him: "Die and see."
.....
Him. "Many of u here were dragged here by a friend.
You're thinking I just want your money.
You know what? Don't give me any."
Robert speaks that double speak the logical mind just wants to scream when it hears.
Believe me I know.
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What's the sound of one hand clapping? ~ asked by a Zen Master.
:::: Do you get it? I never did in my early 20s....now I know the answer and why the question was asked. Ha!
Throw logic outta the window.
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Just reading the thread before bed to commune with some good energy Thank you Ms H for this response which is just spot on.
and thank you Robbie/Robert for sharing the joy
I feel all warm & understood now. G'night!
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Bound by conventions, people tend to reach for what is easy.
Here we must be unafraid of what is difficult.
For all living beings in nature must unfold in their particular way
and become themselves despite all opposition.
-- Rainer Maria Rilke
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13-03-2013, 12:07 AM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. :)
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13-03-2013, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
This thread reminds me how funny it is to try and get anwers that the logical mind loves.
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What is the difference between the illogical that you reference and run-of-the-mill nonsense gibberish?
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Throw logic outta the window.
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I do agree in a sense. Logic does ultimately have no place in describing existence. This is why you have to throw reason and purpose outta the window as well, as they are corollaries of logic. But there doesn't seen to be much acceptance of that. People may be amused by "crazy wisdom" nonsense sayings by self-styled gurus, but they still desparately clutch onto the hope the life has some kind of sense to it- some kind of meaning, reason and purpose. Nope, throw it outta the window.
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13-03-2013, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by psychoslice
No I don't get upset if anyone attackes me, there is no me to attack, maybe I didn't quite understand what you were getting at, maybe you could expand a little more, after all I'm just a simple mind.
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Here is another text that embraces it. Emptiness is that which I call nothingness. It is just words expressing the same: The basic Gnostic myth has many variations, but all of these refer to Aeons, intermediate deific beings who exist between the ultimate, True God and ourselves. They, together with the True God, comprise the realm of Fullness (Pleroma) wherein the potency of divinity operates fully. The Fullness stands in contrast to our existential state, which in comparison may be called emptiness.
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13-03-2013, 12:21 AM
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This is a story I love...one either gets frustrated at it's stupidity
or twinkles and smiles...cause they get it.
A student sees a turtle in the monestary's garden. He asks the Master,
"All beings cover their bones with flesh and skin. Why does this creature
cover it's flesh and skin with bones?"
The Master took off his sandals and covered the turtle.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-03-2013, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LIFE
What is the difference between the illogical that you reference
and run-of-the-mill nonsense gibberish?
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My mind sees no difference, but I do.
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.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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13-03-2013, 12:27 AM
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Here is another text that embraces it. Emptiness is that which I call nothingness. It is just words expressing the same: The basic Gnostic myth has many variations, but all of these refer to Aeons, intermediate deific beings who exist between the ultimate, True God and ourselves. They, together with the True God, comprise the realm of Fullness (Pleroma) wherein the potency of divinity operates fully. The Fullness stands in contrast to our existential state, which in comparison may be called emptiness.
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Yes that is another way of seeing what is beyond the mind, the true God is our true Being, this so called true God I suppose is what we experience in what is called Enlightenment, the false god being what we perceive through he mind, i think that is what is being said ?.
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13-03-2013, 12:31 AM
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Thank you Miss Hepburn for sharing your wisdom on this thread, this is what I was hoping for when I first started the thread, after all its no all about little me lol.
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13-03-2013, 12:42 AM
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I'm not sure, but I am beginning to question whether these so called awakening experiences-or rather ideas- may not just be delusions.
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