29 Purported Truths about Jesus

[sky]

Originally Posted by davids

Hi Sky,

For what it might be worth, I would say, yes.

Just my two cents,

David

Thanks David, it's a strange ' Version ' . I personally haven't heard Jesus being called a lower god before but that what it sounds like to me, mybe I've missed it being used previously.....

[davids]

Originally Posted by sky

I personally haven't heard Jesus being called a lower god before but that what it sounds like to me, mybe I've missed it being used previously.....

Hi Sky,

I would say it is "said," i.e. "used previously," or, at least, alluded to, here, by Jesus himself:

"The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods....Say ye of him....Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" (John 10:33-36 KJV)

And also, "And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master....And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God." (Mark 10:17-8 KJV)

And, possibly, “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matthew 24:36 NIV)

Just thinkin' out-loud here,

David

[keiw1]

Originally Posted by sky

And a certain Denomination say Jesus Christ is an archangel, named Michael.....

He is Michael-1Thess 4:16--When he returns he comes with the voice of the archangel--it is his voice. There is no other explanation for that. Daniel 12:1--Michael stands up for the sons of Daniel-That began when YHWH sent Michael to earth for them, it ends when he hands the kingdom back to his God and Father and subjects himself( 1Cor 15:24-28) after the events of Rev 20:7-10.

The being YHWH sent has a God, and will be in subjection to that God forever. God does not have a God nor is ever in subjection to anyone.
Think about that, as well God is king of eternity, Jesus was appointed king until after the 1000 year reign. If he were God he was already king and would be king always.

[sky]

Originally Posted by keiw1

He is Michael-1Thess 4:16--When he returns he comes with the voice of the archangel--it is his voice. There is no other explanation for that

There are various Verses that would disagree with the idea of Jesus being Michael but if that's what your Denomination thinks, so be it.....
The Lord Jesus descends 'with an Archangel’s voice' does not automatically mean that it is His own voice spoken of.....

So JW's believe Jesus is not the Creator God but a ' lesser god ' a created angel named Michael who was termed 'a god' by John ?

[sky]

Originally Posted by davids

Hi Sky,

I would say it is "said," i.e. "used previously," or, at least, alluded to, here, by Jesus himself:

Yes alluded to by Jesus, but not via Biblical Verse.

[keiw1]

Originally Posted by sky

There are various Verses that would disagree with the idea of Jesus being Michael but if that's what your Denomination thinks, so be it.....
The Lord Jesus descends 'with an Archangel’s voice' does not automatically mean that it is His own voice spoken of.....

So JW's believe Jesus is not the Creator God but a ' lesser god ' a created angel named Michael who was termed 'a god' by John ?

Yes because the bible clearly shows God is the one doing the things through Jesus- Acts 2:22--1Cor 8:5-6
Daniel 12:1--Michael stands up for the sons of Daniel( Israel) it began when he came to earth as Jesus it doesnt end until he hands the kingdom back to his God and Father and subjects himself( 1Cor 15:24-28)

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky

There are various Verses that would disagree with the idea of Jesus being Michael but if that's what your Denomination thinks, so be it.....
The Lord Jesus descends 'with an Archangel’s voice' does not automatically mean that it is His own voice spoken of.....

So JW's believe Jesus is not the Creator God but a ' lesser god ' a created angel named Michael who was termed 'a god' by John ?

What verses are you referring to?

What do those verses say Michael the Archangel is?

[sky]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

What verses are you referring to?

What do those verses say Michael the Archangel is?

You can use Google to get your answers John...

[BigJohn]

I can not find any verses that identifies the alternate name(s) for Michael the Archangel except for the name keiw1 claims, which he says is Jesus. Being I can not find any other names for Michael the Archangel, so are in agreement with keiw1?