Spiritual Forums

Home


Donate!


Articles


CHAT!


Shop


 
Welcome to Spiritual Forums!.

We created this community for people from all backgrounds to discuss Spiritual, Paranormal, Metaphysical, Philosophical, Supernatural, and Esoteric subjects. From Astral Projection to Zen, all topics are welcome. We hope you enjoy your visits.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest, which gives you limited access to most discussions and articles. By joining our free community you will be able to post messages, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos, and gain access to our Chat Rooms, Registration is fast, simple, and free, so please, join our community today! !

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, check our FAQs before contacting support. Please read our forum rules, since they are enforced by our volunteer staff. This will help you avoid any infractions and issues.

Go Back   Spiritual Forums > Religions & Faiths > General Religion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 03-12-2019, 07:36 PM
davidsun davidsun is offline
Master
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Arizona, U.S.A
Posts: 2,358
  davidsun's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molearner
Honza- ... the spilling of ... blood to be given to the world and that is what allows mankind to be born again.
Believe it ... OR NOT , Honza!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacrifice
__________________
David
http://davidsundom.weebly.com/
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 04-12-2019, 01:22 PM
Still_Waters Still_Waters is offline
Master
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 1,104
  Still_Waters's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Molearner
Honza,

You are encountering a paradox. Namely, how can God be immanent(with us) and also transcendent(above us and removed from us). There is a theory provided by the Lurian cabala that seems quite plausible to me. It is that of TZIMTZUM.....please Google its entry on Wikipedia. Basically it is this: nothing can exist outside of God so God found it necessary to create a void within Himself to create the world. This is the origin of freedom.....it provided a place that man could experience true freedom....i.e. a world where man could live without interference from God. The immanent aspect of God in this void is that He provided the spark of life. Without this there could be no form of life in this world. Christians would believe that these sparks of life became a fire as witnessed by the events of Pentecost. That was the outpouring of God's Spirit on mankind. It is still up to man to bring this Spirit alive within themselves.....ergo Ye must be born again. The ultimate act of God's transcendence was to allow the crucifixion of Jesus. He could have easily prevented this. There was a greater purpose in the crucifixion that was fulfilled by the spilling of Christ's blood to be given to the world and that is what allows mankind to be born again. Obviously, tzimtzum is a Jewish interpretation and would not include the Christian extension of being explanatory of the crucifixion. For me this way of understanding answers many of the questions that people ponder about the existence of evil in this world and the accusations that God is indifferent to the travails of mankind. The journey that man must make must conclude with man openly and completely recognizing the authority of God and not allowing the ego to maintain its separation from God.


It took me years of meditation to discover "how can God be immanent(with us) and also transcendent(above us and removed from us)". The immanent aspect of God is not well understood, as you duly noted.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) Spiritual Forums