Nothing matters

~Lioness~ · #1 10-01-2023, 01:11 AM

Nothing matters, as in the very thing that is nothing, matters... and ofc it could be the other way around

#2 10-01-2023, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Orion_Lion

Nothing matters, as in the very thing that is nothing, matters... and ofc it could be the other way around

Hi. Sorry I couldn't understand this Thing.

What is meant by a Thing? and could you please elaborate the thing you say here to my dim mind?

Thanks.

#3 10-01-2023, 01:06 PM

Very good statement Orion_Lion!

Ewwerrin · #4 10-01-2023, 01:54 PM

No self, no thing. Just beingness being infinitely and eternally and absolutely and unchangingly and timelessly and dimensionallessly and boundlessly and limitlessly Unique.

Without chaning, or becoming, existence/being is already always already being infinitely Unique. Eternally here and now, as there is nothing else but it, it can only be forever here and now Unique.

Religion seems to approach it forever, but can never reach it, because it is already everything. Uncomparable, it is nothing. It cannot be known, it is that which allows for the appearance of knowing and identity. The appearing knowing and illusion of it is also already boundlessly Unique.

Everything is always already it, and it being uncomparable, it can be said to be nothing. And everything. Both at the same time. As the same thingless thing=nothing=everything.

Everything is always already it. Everything is always already nothing. Uncomparable. Unique. Boundlessly unique. All one one allness. Inseperable. Infinite. Undefinable. Free. Infinitely free and unlimitted. Always unlike anything else, it is forever the same one thingless thing. Infinite eternal absolute unchanging Uniqueness of existence.

Maisy · #5 17-01-2023, 05:29 AM

Something or someone must experience "no self" I think it's me.

Maisy · #6 17-01-2023, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O K Viswanath

What is meant by a Thing? and could you please elaborate the thing you say here to my dim mind?

I think was just pointing out two ways the meaning of those two words could be interpreted.

#1 "Nothing matters" Meaning the nothing actually DOES matter.

#2 "Nothing matters" Meaning there is nothing that matters.

What is this nothing for it to matter? I think "nothing" or "no-thing" could be a way to point to an awareness we can have with the mind quiet. It's just experience and life as awareness only, thinking turned off for a spell. It's not nothing in the sense of no experience, it is experience without a thought or word. A "thing" means a mental separation between me and it. "No-things" means one thing. Just experience.

It's a well known thing in many books where they say to try to experience a tree for example without any thoughts about it. Just go out and stand next to a tree and empty yourself of all thoughts. Just experience the tree as it is, how it would be if you were not there. The "you" with all of your thoughts and ideas and judgements. So just look and feel the tree. Feel it's life force. Look at it without any ideas or thoughts about it.

I did this exercise once with bushes at night and realizing they were as alive as me I got really scared and ran home lol. Plants are alive and conscious I think we just are not aware of it.

Aknaton · #7 17-01-2023, 06:17 AM

Nothing matters until we have found purpose
No one matters until we have found compassion
Nowhere matters until we have found oneness

Redchic12 · #8 17-01-2023, 11:14 AM

Well said Maisie!

Yes plants are definitely alive and conscious. Have a read of THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS. Can’t remember author. Excellent read.

Miss Hepburn · #9 17-01-2023, 12:55 PM

I ignored ofc thinking it was some typo...
ofc=of course.
No one has ever used it before in my circles.

Starman · #10 17-01-2023, 10:09 PM

Excellent post Maisy, There is no such thing as nothing, and while we apply nothing to matter and see matter as things, matter are not things. It would be accurate to say God is nothing, as the word “nothing” actually means no-thing, and God is not a thing. If everything is energy or consciousness then where does nothing exist?

A thing has a beginning and an end, it has borders or is limited in some way. Matter does contain things, objects occupying space. But all space is already occupied by divine infinite spirit, that is why there is no such thing as nothing, because all space is occupied with the presence of God. There is no place where nothing exists.