Was the "I am" the cause of all mischief?

Originally Posted by Occultist

Wait we using "I am" as the "ID" like what Sigmund Freud talks about?

Hi occultist! Not sure I am understanding what you are talking about. Could you explain please?

Originally Posted by Shabby

I think the words "I am" were even prior to the question "who am I" and maybe prior to that there had to be a subtle feeling of existence and maybe prior to that a consciousness to perceive that I exist. Wouldn't you agree?

If I had answers then I would either agree or disagree depending on what those answers were. But then, perhaps that's the whole point of it. Perhaps in order to have some perception of existence I need the question "Who Am I?"

[Arcturus]

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Originally Posted by necta3

ah nooo! would you adam and eve it??? probably one the longest and most thoughtfull posts i've typed on sf and the server decides to reset and like that really big fish that got away, a real peacher, it's gone never to be seen again

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Originally Posted by Shabby

Hi occultist! Not sure I am understanding what you are talking about. Could you explain please?

when you are using the term "I am" is that another name for the inner "ID" of
sigmund freud teachings?
Or is the " I am " something different? I am confused because to me the "I am" is a name for Yewah.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by Shabby

According to Nisargatta Maharaj the ‘I am’ appeared on our True state and that after it appeared it remained in a pure state for some time, but then words, language and concepts started piling up on it. The ‘I am’ was then verbal and identified itself with body and we became ‘so and so’ living in this world as so and so....the person...an individual. Maharaj said that then mind started to develope and became a workshop of mischief, but that the root cause was the ‘I am’.

In order to end the "mischief" one has to revert and come back to ‘I am’, the original cause of mischief and as we meditate on "I am" and realize its falseness.... it disappears and one has then transcended the ‘I am’.

Could it be that simple?

So if we are so deceived by this 'I AM'...then everything we do and believe and try, would be coming from deception...no?
And if that is true then it would be deception trying to transcend itself by meditating on itself...no?

In other words if there is a one to transcend the I AM, and it was trying, by meditating on it or an other means, then it would have already transcended it...lol

Blessings, James

Was the "I am" the cause of all mischief?


No..... the "I am not" is the cause of that~

[hybrid]

i am is the cause of all mischief, even the idea that there is such a thing as mischief lols