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Old 16-01-2024, 11:05 PM
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SELF ETERNAL EXPERIENCING RELATIVITY SEER.

Seer is about how we can fully understand what a SEER actually is. The human
race comprises of eight billion SEERS, what then is the nature of a SEER?
A seer is one who that sees , one that has insight. At the back of our eyes
and in our inner matrix , who or what is witnessing that which is being seen?

What is the hidden nature of this SEER witness? Eight billion seer all witnessing
eight billion different visions of seeing what is before the seeing witness. A
clue to this riddle about the hidden identity of the seer lies in the title of this
thread-SELF-ETERNAL-EXPERIENCING-RELATIVITY-SEER .
So who then is this SELF who is eternal and is currently experiencing that of
a relative life here on Earth?

TBC

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Old 17-01-2024, 02:21 AM
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Yes of course!

Here’s an interesting question for you then, Michael: So, if we each are a dreamed up object, how may the object (us) wake up within the dream? Surely it depends upon the dreamer, the subject and not the dreamed, the object?
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Old 17-01-2024, 02:30 PM
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Blessings Unseeking seeker I will go deeper in my next post, thanks for your
words of wisdom.

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Old 17-01-2024, 02:53 PM
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SEER

This Spirit in the SINGULAR as there is only ONE SPIRIT which is Absolute.
Which is often referred to as that of GOD or SOURCE of all. This then means
that all eight billion human seers are in fact all SEERS of that ONE ABSOLUTE
SPIRIT, GOD/SOURCE.

So that this UNBORN eternal Spirit has enabled its SELF to become localized
within its relative universe in order to gather experience of relative duality
based life expression. Which means that all eight billion of us are all gathering
experiences at the same time, and each one of us SEERS is then relaying
this singular perspective of that SEER back to the inner SPIRIT who is the
ETERNAL ONE. All eight billion experiences are all FELT by the SOURCE
GOD/SELF SIMULTANEOSLY. We that of humanity are all GOD /SOURCE on
two legs, and we mostly all fail to realize this fact, because of this blanket of
ignorance that veils our inner view.

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Old 18-01-2024, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael K.
This Spirit ...
... orance that veils our inner view.
Blessings michael.
Yeah, how to connect to God. I mean... We are already connected. But I can't become aware of it. I can't just snap my fingers and feel blissful resonance with the most high or absolute.
Altho, that would be nice if I could do that.

In the past I could meditate and in 1 to 10 minute I felt resonance with God or my higher self or soul, or my greater nonphysical consciousness. It felt like unconditional love. It felt very inspired. Felt very good. It is the most wanted experience I can possibly imagine.

But... I can meditate days now and nothing will happen.

And that's just one of the ways I feel mostly not disconnected from Source. But my connection very murky. To say the least. Not clear not full not more fuller clearer.

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Old 19-01-2024, 12:45 AM
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Yeah, how to connect to God. I mean... We are already connected. But I can't become aware of it. I can't just snap my fingers and feel blissful resonance with the most high or absolute.
Altho, that would be nice if I could do that.
Blessings Ewwerrin, and thank you for your post. I too have experienced this
where nothing seems to occur.
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Old 19-01-2024, 01:00 AM
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SEER.

We all our the SEER, so any response must come from within us, I identified
with you EWWERAIN when you said that now nothing seems to happen when
you sit in stillness. This too has happened to me, until I realized that "I" was
that SOURCE I was trying to get a response from?

When the full realization dawns upon us that "we" are only a biological
vehicle, and that the only thing that is real is that Absolute Spirit that
animates the vehicle. We therefore cannot expect or hope for any response
from any source that is outside of who and what we really are,

The SEER is a RELATIVE POINT within the Absolute SOURCE. which is who
and what "WE" all our.


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Old 20-01-2024, 12:14 PM
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We all our the SEER, so ...
... what "WE" all our.
blessings michael.
I have to agree with everything you said, because there is no counter evidence, it's simply the truth.

But it is also very terrifying. To know that relativity and frequency/vibration/duality, is all that we are, for all eternity. We will forever experience equal amounts of good as bad. Negative as positive. And we can never reach the absolute or know it or become it, even tho logic says that there can only be the absolute, and yet it is not our own consciousness.

So if we are our own consciousness. Even neutrally observing and witnessing with no opinion or value or purpose. Just purely neutral observation and witnessing. It still doesnt make our consciousness less dualistic/relative. As even our witness consciousness extends into duality consciousness. And so it is still not the absolute, except in theory.

If the relative is the absolute and the absolute is relative, we're back in square 1. We are a duality and there is no way to know or become the nondual absolute. Because seeking or realising the absolute is always going to be relative... Then we are doomed to remain a duality.

And we will then forever experience positive and negative. And there exists nothing else for us, as consciousness'.

Which means we are all back into the same religious story. There is an unknowable absolute. And we either experience paradise (positivity) or hell (negativity) with both being infinite and eternal and bottomless/ceilingnless. Like there is no point in hell that you can say "I can't fall further than this." and there is no limit to heaven where you can say: "I can't get higher than this." And the higher we get the harder we fall and the harder we fall the higher we get. as above so bellow. Duality as the only reality that exists, even tho it is all fake/illusion. As higher is simultaneously lower and lower is simultaneously higher.

It makes it all perfectly balanced, even when out of balance. And therefor self cancelling. And pointless, meaningless, valueless. Just enless varieties of 0's and 1's, which always add up to nothing.

Everything being forever an appearance, and nothing that appears is what it seems to be. Forever.

Is there nothing that doesn't appear as anything but is absolutely the absolute unchanging truth? And if there is, like forexample existence or beingness without becoming. Then how can we know it? It seems more likely that the infinite absolute is unknowabke and is beyond consciousness. That it is something that simply cannot be known or put into words. But when the illusion of self appears to fall away, or rather, it is realised that there has never even been a self (as you mentioned it to be just a relative thing), then what remains in nothingness is perhaps some kind of resonance with the absolute or something unexplainable.
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Old 21-01-2024, 12:16 AM
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SEER.

Blessings EWWERRIN my response to what you wrought which was "we will
forever experience equal amounts of good and bad, negative and positive, and
we can never reach the Absolute or know it or become it" unquote.

Reaching the Absolute implies EWWERRIN that there is a "distance" between
YOU and the Absolute, the reality is that there is ZERO distance from you and
that which just "IS" "WE" all are ABSOLUTE undergoing a RELATIVE DREAM.

In Absolute truth there is NO UNIVERSE whatsoever, there is NO LIFE whatsoever, there is no EXISTENCE whatsoever. All that there "IS" "IS" that
which is ABSOLUTE, and YOU EWWERRIN and ME and all the other life in
this universe is THAT which IS.

Because we are super submerged and clad in five KOSHIC SHEATHS WE IDENTIFY with this biological machine vehicle as being who we are, but this
is utter nonsense, we have become blinded by density, and our egos.

We need to fully understand that NONE OF US in TRUTH have EVER EXISTED
only that of a DREAM within our ABSOLUTE MIND. Behind your name which
is a label your parents gave you, behind the five KOSHIC SHEATHS that
enable the SPIRIT to gain tangible experience. behind all this is "YOU"
which is Absolute BEING.

This whole universe is a THEATRE of MOTIONING TANGIBLES that are all
gathering experiences and feeding them all back to the Absolute
SIMULTANEOSLY. "WE" along with this universe are all a product of THOUGHT within Absolute MIND, and this thought is sill ONGOING after
billions of years.

YOU EWWERRIN have ALWAYS been ABSOLUTE, just like the rest of us
have always been, when we fully wake up we then realize this truth within
us. There is only ONE ABSOLUTE BEINGLESS BEING and "WE" are "THAT"



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