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Old 27-08-2023, 06:15 PM
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To be a living being ("I am“) is not the ultimate state; there is something beyond, much more wonderful, which is neither being nor not-being, neither living nor not living. It is a state of awareness, beyond the limitations of space and time. The same source of the will (desire) to live, a source deeper even than life itself. The 'I' is there even without the 'am'. -- Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj

Blessings alanatic for your wise and thoughtful input here I totally agree that
beyond life and existence which are both relative terms lies that of Absoluteness which is that of the one from which nought can be said.

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Old 27-08-2023, 09:12 PM
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Yep I can agree with your last two posts. For me personally it seems feasible.
I guess everything we want to know lays in that “small quiet place within” but getting into it, is not an easy task.
Blessings Redchic12, thanks for this post, child hood trauma certainly played
a big part in my awakening process, with being put in a children home for
months at 7 years old, then becoming a chronic alcoholic given only three
months to live .
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Old 29-08-2023, 08:00 AM
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Blessings Redchic12, thanks for this post, child hood trauma certainly played a big part in my awakening process, with being put in a children home for months at 7 years old, then becoming a chronic alcoholic given only three months to live . regards michael

Thanks Michael and I'm glad you're still with us and thanks for your interesting FIAT post.
I'd like to say something about the Trauma aspect that has been mentioned. To me Trauma is a double edged sword if you like.
The healing aspects of Trauma is that the Traumatised Person, in my opinion, gains a deep insight into superficiality and pretence,
mentioned in many religious and spiritual paths, their B S detector is turbocharged and they can see into situations which lead to suffering easier than the average Joe.
This to me is a blessing no doubt.

The negative side of Trauma is that the sufferer becomes hypersensitive to situations, and reads too much into them, acting in bad faith causing themselves and others unnecessary suffering. The woundedness offers a direct gateway to the Divine but can also as I say make worldly suffering worse without intervention and help. Just to make it clear to myself and others Trauma is not warranted or asked for so in no way is it a prerequisite to Spiritual Awakening imo. Spiritual Awakening/Awakenings can also come as a sole and direct result of Beauty and Love. Thanks Joe.

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Old 29-08-2023, 12:11 PM
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Blessings and thanks JOE MC for your most insightful post on this thread I
totally agree with all you have said there, childhood trauma and chronic alcoholism took their toll on my life, and I have never mixed socially with anyone, unless it was in my job placement where i worked in various projects
for ex prisoners with alcohol and drug problems I did this for over 30 years.

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Old 30-08-2023, 05:39 AM
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Blessings and thanks JOE MC for your most insightful post on this thread I totally agree with all you have said there, childhood trauma and chronic alcoholism took their toll on my life, and I have never mixed socially with anyone, unless it was in my job placement where i worked in various projects for ex prisoners with alcohol and drug problems I did this for over 30 years. warmest regards michael.

Thank you Michael and commendations on the good work that you have been able to carry on for ex prisoners with drug and alcohol problems.

I was just reading back to the OP and the FIAT acronym and thinking although this 'Source' or 'God' etc. we call the FIAT
(Fathomless Inexplicable Absolute Transcendence) has been alluded and pointed to throughout History, 'The Spiritual Experience' is just that
a deep knowing which is revealed or experienced and lived by the Seeker. It is also clear that the value of words need not even be spoken about
as they are also inherently invaluable to human experience, however, is it not the case that words and concepts sometimes become substitutes for this experience of the FIAT ?
Thank you Michael for the opportunity. Hope you are well. Joe.

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Old 30-08-2023, 04:44 PM
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Thank you Michael and commendations on the good work that you have been able to carry on for ex prisoners with drug and alcohol problems.

I was just reading back to the OP and the FIAT acronym and thinking although this 'Source' or 'God' etc..,____________________________________________ ____________
Of course while in it we have no idea about the great bonus that will follow, knowing your self, then knowing the SELF and thereby realizing that
we all are the SELF and know it not.

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Old 31-08-2023, 04:43 AM
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who holds the flame of awareness
that may instantly bridge the yawning gap
between deep wisdom by clear sight so imbibed
and the full bodied assimilation within by so becoming
all aspects of spontaneous freedom of expression of true Self

here and now in form, in an unbroken, seamless continuum
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Old 31-08-2023, 01:18 PM
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who holds the flame of awareness
that may instantly bridge the yawning gap
between deep wisdom by clear sight so imbibed
and the full bodied assimilation within by so becoming
all aspects of spontaneous freedom of expression of true Self

here and now in form, in an unbroken, seamless continuum

Beautiful words Unseeking seeker, wonderful to read and feel that immense depth they portray. You have a great gift for articulating words that arise out
of deep understanding of that which just is.

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Old 01-09-2023, 11:54 PM
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FIAT

FIAT reveals that this "LIFE" is in fact a "motional dream" The truth is that it
appears simultaneously that we are here within an ideational intention focus
coalesced into tangible formation, while also being Absolute in perfect bliss.

ALL life being expressed (motioned intentional ideation) universally is all
currently echoing back to Absolute Source its CENTILLION experiences being
encountered 24/7 simultaneously.



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Old 16-09-2023, 07:03 AM
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FIAT

"I AM" sat here in Turkey in my swimming shorts with the temp at 36degrees
writing the post, and simultaneously "I AM" in Absolute bliss in that placeless
place.

The invisible Fathomless Inexplicable Transcendent truth is sometimes
difficult to grasp, or rather can you grasp the ungraspable???



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