Self - open discussion

[Internal Queries]

Originally Posted by Lisa

The mind is a brilliant tool. But identification with thought, emotion, to the mind- is unconsciousness- which creates and has created great suffering to all living things. This identification has created a false self- a separate self- an ego.

Being free of this conditioned mind, of identification with it, "thinking we are our thoughts and little selves" is liberation. And is the realization of who we are- the one formless, divine consciousness.

hmmm i disagree. "i am" my mind. i think therefore i am. when i go to sleep, in pre-dream state my mind is not engaged and i am at that point the very definition of "unconscious". "i" do not exist to myself because my mind is unaware of itself. being unaware of self is being unconscious. if unconsciousness (absence of selfhood) is the goal then by all means ... marginalize your mind, chant it away, become one with the egoless void. there's a completeness in that, i suppose, though how you'd experience that completeness without a self/mind to perceive the experience is a mystery to me.