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24-10-2018, 03:46 AM
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Knower
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Munroe Falls, OH, USA
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Why do we exist?
So, in a channeled session with my highest spirit guide, they said that yes, I can heal from my depression in this lifetime. I asked what I needed to do in order to heal, and they said to continue following my career and passion (which I expected), but also that I must answer the question "Why do we exist?" (which I did not expect). I suppose I should've expected it....its always been my question, after all. In some form or another, I've always been asking this question.
I know its a silly question to ask...and that I've asked it here multiple times, using different words. But its my path to healing, so....
What do you think? Why is it that we exist? What illusive reason could possibly be out there that would make my suffering, or anybody's suffering, worth it? I'm kind of at a loss as to how to proceed with what my guide said. All I can think of doing is asking others what they think about it.
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24-10-2018, 06:44 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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If you didn't exist then the universe/world in which you exist wouldn't.
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24-10-2018, 06:59 PM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Originally Posted by Busby
If you didn't exist then the universe/world in which you exist wouldn't.
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I've never understood how this can said. Can you explain what it means the world/universe wouldn't exist. What about the biological (physical) process many more are never born then born, yet the universe/world exist in spite of not being here.
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25-10-2018, 06:26 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemex
I've never understood how this can said. Can you explain what it means the world/universe wouldn't exist. What about the biological (physical) process many more are never born then born, yet the universe/world exist in spite of not being here.
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Yes, you are right - it is a very shallow way of observing those 7 decades or so which we have in this thing called world. However, if there is nothing in you which believes that something is behind this/these appearances then it can be said that the world/universe only came into being when you entered it and will vanish when you leave it.
https://futurism.com/videos/brain-ha...cious-reality/
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26-10-2018, 02:38 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lemex
I've never understood how this can be said. Can you explain what it means the world/universe wouldn't exist...
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Not exactly the same, but for your enjoyment, and for this group:
This was how a similar ques was explained to me in 1975, by Larry Bernstein, architect and student of
Frank Lloyd Wright! Ha ...Brilliant man. I will paraphrase as best I can:
So, here you have God, infinite and infinitesimal. His creation like a tapestry....
of many threads. IF ONE of those threads (you) were not there...
the whole tapestry would not be the same!
The creation would have a void, a hole....you would not be there...God wouldn't even 'be God', infinite and infinitesimal,
because of that blank, that missing 'one' thread...you, in all your uniqueness.
There has to be a 'you' in order for there to be this Universe, for God to be Himself!
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I might as well, continue with more of what he said: This is why there had to be a soul such as Jesus'....because
as He sent out all these individual souls (that got attached to form and matter and their senses
and forgot their Source! lol, us!)...
there had to be that ONE that went out, but came immediately back to it's Home
unscathed by desires, attachments and forgettfulness in the Universe of matter.
Pure, Hansa the Pure Soul, the begotten Son. Voila!
One man's take. RIP Larry.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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26-10-2018, 03:56 PM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Not exactly the same, but for your enjoyment, and for this group:
This was how a similar ques was explained to me in 1975, by Larry Bernstein, architect and student of
Frank Lloyd Wright! Ha ...Brilliant man. I will paraphrase as best I can:
So, here you have God, infinite and infinitesimal. His creation like a tapestry....
of many threads. IF ONE of those threads (you) were not there...
the whole tapestry would not be the same!
The creation would have a void, a hole....you would not be there...God wouldn't even 'be God', infinite and infinitesimal,
because of that blank, that missing 'one' thread...you, in all your uniqueness.
There has to be a 'you' in order for there to be this Universe, for God to be Himself!
.......
I might as well, continue with more of what he said: This is why there had to be a soul such as Jesus'....because
as He sent out all these individual souls (that got attached to form and matter and their senses
and forgot their Source! lol, us!)...
there had to be that ONE that went out, but came immediately back to it's Home
unscathed by desires, attachments and forgettfulness in the Universe of matter.
Pure, Hansa the Pure Soul, the begotten Son. Voila!
One man's take. RIP Larry.
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I have observed some criticize some threads which is always sad to me where everyone seem to think we all have the same purpose. Is there a purpose in our connection or connection itself.
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27-10-2018, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by lemex
I have observed some criticize some threads which is always sad to me where everyone seem to think we all have the same purpose. Is there a purpose in our connection or connection itself.
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Take a look in the mirror and you'll see all the answers you need. You are the answer looking for the question, and when you unravel that everything else in your reality unravels along with it.
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26-10-2018, 05:48 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Arizona, U.S.A
Posts: 3,454
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
There has to be a 'you' in order for there to be this Universe, for God to be Himself!
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Yes,, but this is a very ego-'self' serving belief/attitude, IMO. If 'you' weren't here or if 'you' were to choose to be 'different' than 'you' presently are, there wouldn't be this Universe, but there would be another Universe, i.e. a 'different' one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
The creation would have a void, a hole....you would not be there...God wouldn't even 'be God', infinite and infinitesimal,
because of that blank, that missing 'one' thread...you, in all your uniqueness.
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Personally, I would rather live in a Universe that was 'void' (LOL) of a lot of characters who are presently neglecting the welfare of as well as violating others on the planet, in effect trashing (IMO) Gaia and the creatures on it in ways which I personally find quite unfortunate (for all concerned).
God would still be both infinite and infitesimal as the quote says with such existential 'void', but it would be a 'better' (IMO) infinite/infintesimal Universe configuration.
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24-10-2018, 07:54 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 7,731
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Originally Posted by Rayden_Greywolf
What illusive reason could possibly be out there that would make my suffering, or anybody's suffering, worth it?
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To learn compassion. Experiencing pain has opened my eyes to others and their pain; has taught me to understand and have compassion for the pain others experience. All creation is love. We are here to experience and evolve love in all its manifestations.
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24-10-2018, 08:04 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 7,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayden_Greywolf
I know its a silly question to ask...and that I've asked it here multiple times, using different words. But its my path to healing, so....
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The story of the healing of the Grail King (thanks to davidsun for the link), and the alchemical magic in asking the question:
http://portalofconsciousness.com/the-story-of-parsifal/
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