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12-07-2013, 02:29 AM
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Knower
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It's a release. I tend not to cry unless it's someone I'm close to. Something that comes to an end can be sad because we are leaving part of ourselves with it and we will never see it again. I once cried when I moved out of an apartment. To this day I still have no idea why and it hasn't happened since.
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12-07-2013, 04:09 AM
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I cry because I will miss them, or if it is so sudden and unexpected. I know deep in my heart I will see that person again when it's my time, but I don't like long periods of time away from people I love.
My grandpa is very old. Just recently he had to get brain surgery and I thought it was the end for him. I'm very close to him and the thought of having to spend time away from him is painful, even when he went out of state for a week one time. He is fine now thankfully, but if the worse did happen, I'd know I would see him again.
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14-07-2013, 04:21 PM
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Try asking a Mother who lost her child. It's like asking, "why did you cry when your arm was cut off"?
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14-07-2013, 04:58 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeandOneness
I know for the obvious reasons, fear of not seeing them again, disappointment etc.
But on a deeper level, i guess it's something to ponder on. The reason why we cry when someone dies, especially family.
Thoughts ?
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We cry because we believe in death, that we will see them no more, that we to will disappear and never exist again some day.
Crying for someone crossing over is a form of proof that we have not yet discovered that death is an illusion of the mind. Mind mourning for its imagined loss - the loss of them, the eventual loss of its self.
When the Eternal Self is discovered the illusion of death is revealed, there is no more death, there's just "Catch you later Dear One!"
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14-07-2013, 05:35 PM
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Master
Join Date: May 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrystalSong
We cry because we believe in death, that we will see them no more, that we to will disappear and never exist again some day.
Crying for someone crossing over is a form of proof that we have not yet discovered that death is an illusion of the mind. Mind mourning for its imagined loss - the loss of them, the eventual loss of its self.
When the Eternal Self is discovered the illusion of death is revealed, there is no more death, there's just "Catch you later Dear One!"
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No .... not necessarily. I knew dad had gone to a better place, that he was reunited in a place of joy and indeed there was joy - I heard it, I tasted his happiness.
As I said before, for me there were several things. There was the loss of a physical presence, that I would never see his lovely face and hear his wheezy laugh.
Then, given his new awareness and being in a position of total and absolute knowledge, he reached out to me in a powerful and profound way that he hadn't been able to during this incarnation. And, his regret at not having recognised me from previous incarnations as I was a different gender (I was going to say the wrong gender, but there is nothing wrong with my gender, it was just not what my pa anticipated), there was this sudden recognition that he had of me. And that caused my heart to lurch at so many years of us not knowing each other, a huge huge regret.
I miss dad, I miss his wisdom, I miss his intelligence and I miss his kindness. I see him in unexpected places and I hear him. It's just over a year since he passed and I still shed a tear for him.
I don't know if we will be brought into a full new relatedness or whether we will live out this semi-relatedness waiting for me to cross and I know he will be there.
His passing brought about quite an energetic shift in the family, something which is still being worked out. It's not so easy and there are tears related to that aspect.
I'm joyful that he is being made anew, that he is in a better place but that doesn't stop me feeling sad.
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14-07-2013, 05:56 PM
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Master
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Our egoaic selves do indeed miss their physical presence, all the things that for this round won't be shared or done together, and more memories being made. As you learned however he's still in contact, still with you and it's just a new type of sharing, interacting and relating.
It's hard for our brains to sort all that out tho, very hard indeed, as they prefer to experience with the 5 senses and now your father is in a realm where those don't work and won't work again until he takes another body. You're ability to continue experiencing with him also lies in other senses than the five body senses, that can be very frustrating indeed. The 5 senses mourn him too.
*hugs*
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14-07-2013, 11:00 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeandOneness
I know for the obvious reasons, fear of not seeing them again, disappointment etc.
But on a deeper level, i guess it's something to ponder on. The reason why we cry when someone dies, especially family.
Thoughts ?
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LifeandOneness - I may be a strange bird, but I don't cry at people's funerals or when someone dies or at least I haven't up to now. But when I had to put my dogs down, I wailed like a baby and still do cry when I'm missing them terribly. Some people in my life have said that they pray to people and talk to them when their deceased. That's something I've never done either. I do cry when I'm aware that someone is suffering while living, but death itself to me is an end and I suppose because I've experienced so many meaningful things ending in life, I've learned to push deep emotions down.
For some though, I would imagine that the funeral event itself can evoke a lot of sad emotions and trigger all kinds of pain that results in crying as a source of relief.
Blackraven
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15-07-2013, 12:51 AM
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It's natural to cry when someone we have loved very much (doesn't matter what species) leaves the Earth plane. Because we are very immersed in the Earth plane most of the time, and it can just seem like they have disappeared.
Until we tune in to another layer, and find out they haven't.
But there's nothing wrong with tears.
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15-07-2013, 08:10 AM
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Master
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Thank you Tobi.
If it is egoic to mourn and with tears, I'm fine with that but I find it strange to describe it as such.
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15-07-2013, 10:55 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeandOneness
I know for the obvious reasons, fear of not seeing them again, disappointment etc.
But on a deeper level, i guess it's something to ponder on. The reason why we cry when someone dies, especially family.
Thoughts ?
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I never pondered it, and people cry coz they are sad, if not over a death, then they cry over something else.
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