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05-06-2019, 12:57 AM
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Christianity is not politically correct.
In our pluralistic society it has become politically incorrect to claim that God has revealed Himself decisively in Jesus. Popularly, all roads lead to Rome, all beliefs are equally valid, and all are heading to the same place. This leaves Christians who claim that their particular belief is the only truth to seem awfully narrow-minded and intolerant.
But to actually be a Christian is unfortunately to declare that Christianity as found in the New Testament is the ONLY true way.
In the Bible, Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father [God] except through me" (John 14:6, NIV). In Acts 4:12, the Apostle Peter said of Jesus, "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
If we are to believe this in this day and age, we are demeaned as being narrow-minded and somehow intellectually inferior, but this seems to be a problem I am stuck with, because I do believe these words, not through faith but through experience. It's a difficult position to defend in this millenium.
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05-06-2019, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by django
In our pluralistic society it has become politically incorrect to claim that God has revealed Himself decisively in Jesus. Popularly, all roads lead to Rome, all beliefs are equally valid, and all are heading to the same place. This leaves Christians who claim that their particular belief is the only truth to seem awfully narrow-minded and intolerant.
But to actually be a Christian is unfortunately to declare that Christianity as found in the New Testament is the ONLY true way.
In the Bible, Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father [God] except through me" (John 14:6, NIV). In Acts 4:12, the Apostle Peter said of Jesus, "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
If we are to believe this in this day and age, we are demeaned as being narrow-minded and somehow intellectually inferior, but this seems to be a problem I am stuck with, because I do believe these words, not through faith but through experience. It's a difficult position to defend in this millenium.
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With any institutional belief system (and Christianity in particular), how the "Satanic world" views them, is of absolutely NO consequence whatsoever.
Others can say they are being "intolerant" or "closed minded" or "brainwashed" or "deluded" or "stupid" etc and they will say "of course demons are going to say all those things to try and shut us down, so that Satan can go about in this world totally unchallenged".
In the Christian view, all those who say they are being "intolerant", "narrow minded" or any other criticism of methodology according to "God's Word' isn't going to be looked upon too favourably when God brings out his cosmic whiteboard eraser and starts the whole process anew...and they will cite Noah as the prime example here.
When one has a total conviction of Faith , there is nothing that another who does not share those same beliefs can say or do to get them to change it.
In a way, I see this as being a good thing, in that they remain grounded, firm and unshaken in the 'Spirit of God' when being judged by the "court of public opinion" because it only serves to separate the "men" from the "boys" as it were...in my own "politically incorrect" terminology.
A true Christian (or a Hindu for that matter) would not even care if the whole WORLD was against them! For as long as God is on their side, it's all good.
.....and when "Judgement Day" comes...when all of the fallen angels cases against humanity comes up for review, God can admit FINALLY to being wrong about the human creatures he created, and let all of the fallen souls back into heaven.
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05-06-2019, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by django
If we are to believe this in this day and age, we are demeaned as being narrow-minded and somehow intellectually inferior, but this seems to be a problem I am stuck with, because I do believe these words, not through faith but through experience. It's a difficult position to defend in this millenium.
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1. Not every Christian feels the way you do
2. If it works for you, then there is no need for defence (or offence) dear django
3. May God enlighten your heart, soul and mind
Namaste,
JL
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05-06-2019, 05:40 AM
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You are correct Django....Christianity is a bitter pill to swallow for many people. Suggesting that Jesus is the only path back to God obviously shuts out all those who do not believe. They don't like that. It causes friction.
The whole issue causes me a big headache.
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05-06-2019, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by janielee
1. Not every Christian feels the way you do
2. If it works for you, then there is no need for defence (or offence) dear django
3. May God enlighten your heart, soul and mind
Namaste,
JL
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1. Almost all Christians feel that way. Only the Gnostics see it different.
2. There is such a thing as human doubt and crises of faith. No one is strong enough to be completely happy in their path.
3. And the same to you.
God bless.
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05-06-2019, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Honza
1. Almost all Christians feel that way. Only the Gnostics see it different.
2. There is such a thing as human doubt and crises of faith. No one is strong enough to be completely happy in their path.
3. And the same to you.
God bless.
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The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night declares knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words; their voice is not heard; yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.
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05-06-2019, 06:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by django
In our pluralistic society it has become politically incorrect to claim that God has revealed Himself decisively in Jesus. Popularly, all roads lead to Rome, all beliefs are equally valid, and all are heading to the same place. This leaves Christians who claim that their particular belief is the only truth to seem awfully narrow-minded and intolerant.
But to actually be a Christian is unfortunately to declare that Christianity as found in the New Testament is the ONLY true way.
In the Bible, Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father [God] except through me" (John 14:6, NIV). In Acts 4:12, the Apostle Peter said of Jesus, "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
If we are to believe this in this day and age, we are demeaned as being narrow-minded and somehow intellectually inferior, but this seems to be a problem I am stuck with, because I do believe these words, not through faith but through experience. It's a difficult position to defend in this millenium.
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' But to actually be a Christian is unfortunately to declare that Christianity as found in the New Testament is the ONLY true way.'
If it works for you personally to believe this then that's good but please don't speak for every Christian in the world because you don't know.....
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05-06-2019, 06:27 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
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Anyone who insists on a literal interpretation of ancient scripture will be in trouble. Anything that was written in the Bronze Age by people who didn't know where the sun went at night is at best taken as a guide. If we insist on a literal interpretation and use the commandments in scripture as a guide to how to conduct our lives in the modern world, we'll end up where much of the Islamic world is today. I don't think anyone would want to live like that. The Bible has commandments to kill you neighbour if you see them working on the Sabbath, stone gay people to death, that sort of thing. Do you really want to live by those rules?
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05-06-2019, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NoOne
Anyone who insists on a literal interpretation of ancient scripture will be in trouble. Anything that was written in the Bronze Age by people who didn't know where the sun went at night is at best taken as a guide. If we insist on a literal interpretation and use the commandments in scripture as a guide to how to conduct our lives in the modern world, we'll end up where much of the Islamic world is today. I don't think anyone would want to live like that. The Bible has commandments to kill you neighbour if you see them working on the Sabbath, stone gay people to death, that sort of thing. Do you really want to live by those rules?
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Well said.
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05-06-2019, 06:42 AM
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The real "bitter pill" is that God accepts nothing less than total sacrifice and surrender to His Will - even though he gave us all "free will".
In the Bible, it says that you cannot serve God and Mammon at the same time.
Even Jesus said that he carries a sword to separate father from son and brother from brother.
So, what you going to do when a person you love forces you to choose between them and God?
The "it is either the other OR me" works on both sides here.
Then, it is up to you to decide to forgo any earthly/worldly future you MAY have, for God's love and Grace which is available anywhere...any time.
The decision wasn't a difficult one for me to make...however, because humans are "social creatures", they have an aversion to being ostracized from their circle of peers and relations due to their beliefs and practices.
That's when God steps in and goes "who needs 'em'?
Most cannot deal with this ultimatum...so they fall into the arms of that 'human cannonball' and only those who are able and willing to lay down their own lives for God, if necessary, can be truly called "God's chosen among men" because it is a HUGE ask!
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