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Old 16-12-2010, 06:59 AM
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yes. some words are misleading and some are pointing. hehe
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Old 16-12-2010, 07:37 AM
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In John 14:28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I" Jesus says that He is doing the Father's will, implying that He is subservient to the Father. In Hebrews 1:8, “But about the Son He says, ’Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” Jesus is God, The Father refers to Jesus as O God.

In Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone." The second Person of the Trinity is Jesus who took on human flesh. Therefore, for all purposes and intents, Jesus was fully human and "made lower than the angels." Jesus is, however, fully divine, Jesus did not relinquish His divine nature.
God cannot stop being God. There is no difference between the two as to their essence; they stand as equals. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all three members are essentially equal; they are divine in nature. In the plan of redemption, they play certain roles and these roles define authority and subservience. The Father commands the Son, and the Father and the Son command the Holy Spirit.

When Jesus declares, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. The greatness spoken of in this verse, then relates to role not to essence. Philippians 2:5-11 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross! Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Old 16-12-2010, 08:22 AM
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"i am god" is egoism
"I'm burning God".
So, what is this?
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Old 16-12-2010, 10:54 AM
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"I'm burning God".
So, what is this?
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not atheism, since it senseless to burn something that ain't existing.

a god hater perhaps?

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Old 16-12-2010, 12:34 PM
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If you open a modern bible and look at Mark chapter chapter 1 verse 1
it says "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the son of God."

But if you look at the codex sinaiticus which is an old bible you will notice
that in verse 1 the reference "the son of God" missing. Why is this? Is it possible that the bible has been tampered with as time went by.

Considering all the extra books contained within the codex sinaiticus
that are no longer part of the bible it seems to me that
much tampering of the bible has occurred.

In the old testament it talks about having no other Gods before me.
But yet in the today's bibles the new testament introduces
Jesus as a son of God.

Is Christianity today a form of Paulism?

Not everyone in history thought of Paul's writings as true. I don't put much
weight in the Gospel of Barnabas but In the Gospel of Barnabas I found something interesting. In chapter 222 we find the following:
"Others preached, and yet preach, that Jesus is the Son of God, among whom is Paul deceived."

I believe that Jesus was one with God
and we can do the same.
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Old 16-12-2010, 01:25 PM
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not atheism, since it senseless to burn something that ain't existing.

a god hater perhaps?

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Exactly. The biblical God that doesn't exist.

I'm not atheist. I believe in our divine nature but I don't believe in God.

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Old 16-12-2010, 03:17 PM
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This reminds me of the guy who wrote a book and claimed to be the reincarnation of St. Paul. I believed him as much as I do that someone channeled Jesus so that he could set us all straight on what he was really all about....

Nonsense I say... complete and utter tomfoolery
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Old 16-12-2010, 11:02 PM
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Therefore, for all purposes and intents, Jesus was fully human and "made lower than the angels." Jesus is, however, fully divine, Jesus did not relinquish His divine nature. God cannot stop being God. There is no difference between the two as to their essence; they stand as equals.

This part is totally true.

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Therefore, for all purposes and intents, Jesus was fully human and "made lower than the angels."

This part, not so much.
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There is no difference between the two as to their essence; they stand as equals.

God is God alone. Sharing in His Essence, is not the same thing, as being God.
Christ is a privilege that The Holy Father allows to take place, within His children's souls. Jesus has the most of His Divine Substance.

But your first statement, is much closer to the truth. Jesus was fully human, save for his role, his function, and the AMOUNT of God's Love within His soul.

God is God alone.
We will forever be, but children before our Holy Father.
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Old 16-12-2010, 11:38 PM
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Since God indwells each one of us, then we are all part of God. There is nothing in God's creation that is NOT God. All aspects hold at their core the God essence, thus all are One and all are God.
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