Jesus, Human Prophet or Divine Saviour?

[Morpheus]

Originally Posted by Amilius777

Aw Thank you Soleil!

I've been absent from the forum for several weeks but I am back for a while. That was very kind of you to repost :-) Thank you!!!

If I may add since Morpheus said some stuff-

I wonder if this can make sense. We all are Souls. Anything that is sentient or conscious is a soul. Whether that be an Angel, a human, an animal, an alien, a demon, I don't care what. Now it's form and consciousness is all based on their development, choices, evolution, etc.

In the Christian Religion it was debated for centuries where this Jesus came from.

It is from my understanding that "the Son of Man" not only means a human, but anything of a human-like form. In this case to see "a Son of Man on the throne" symbolizes a Soul who lived on Earth and ascended.

All of us from the beginning started off as Angels or angelic beings. I believe you agree on this Morpheus since I saw you state this once. But a huge majority of us on Earth are the Angels who desired to experience all of God's creation. The Archangels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael are the greatest because they are the oldest and most evolved and powerful. They never incarnated and stayed behind the scenes. There is an Up and down to everything in life. If one is to remain as a purely Spiritual Being like God they tend to evolve at a slower rate and their evolution can be easier since it is without pain and suffering. That doesn't mean a purely Spiritual Being can not make mistakes or "fall from grace" which has happened. There are Demonic beings who are very advanced and very old and were always of a Spiritual nature. I wouldn't say they are "spiritual" now since the Spirit constitutes Life and growth, they are more like carnal, ego-centric, chaotic, violent in their energy and minds. Let's not venture into that.

But we all have an Angelic nature, an Angel-side to our soul. The Angelic nature is our Higher Self. It is made of a higher frequency and consciousness. It is very difficult to manifest in the Physical Realm if you are one of us who has desired to experience Earth. It can take many many lifetimes of evolution to raise your vibration and consciousness. But we chose this. It is part of God's Experiment. Our main goal is to raise that consciousness within but also to share our Light with others. We must bring Spirit into our daily lives. Before the Advent of Jesus, humankind always thought it was a matter of "Private enlightenment" which is "Escape philosophy" The Buddha sorta taught this where reincarnation is a bad thing and you must get out. Buddha was a highly evolved human soul who after many lifetimes became this great enlightened teacher. Nothing wrong with this but it isn't the "entire Truth" which is why Buddhism evolved over time including the belief of the "Bodhisattva" which may have been influenced by Christian missionaries centuries later. Then there is another matter where Mankind believed it was a matter of "Saving the World". The Jewish People subscribed to this belief more and less into private-God experience. They believed that the world at large was in need of salvation, particularly their world from the Roman Empire.

The Roman Empire was just one of many evil forces but what they represented is timeless. We see it today which is Oppression, enslavement through Imperial power. Imperial power is the most grotesque manifestation of Corporate Ego. Once that is occurred a Nation, a group, a collective has become very ill and sick with ego-consciousness.

Humankind reached a Crossroads 2,000 years ago where God or the Divine, Highest Power whatever you wanna call it could enact a New Way for us to learn from and follow. Jesus was a very old, highly evolved Spiritual Being, an Angel who was a master teacher and never had touched the surface of the Earth. He had no desire to be part of our interests or consciousness. This isn't to say we are bad and he is good. But that is where his "divinity" came from. Now this is what I beleive from my own contemplation: God asked of him or perhaps he asked of God to be made a Man so he could teach, inspire, and heal people on Earth. He was of a higher frequency and consciousness, but asked to be "in a sense" demoted and become "One of us". This entity would go through the entire cycle and evolution of a Human on Earth when he incarnated as the Nazarene. Remember Jesus made mistakes, he was a Man of his time, a person limited to a culture, religion, and belief systems.

He wasn't God. If he was God he would know about Quantum Physics, Relativity, all manner of thought about science, psychology, you name it. When he claimed "God-like" attributes like "I AM", he was speaking from a level of consciousness he attained while in his human body, from his own God-experience, his own enlightenment. Buddha did the same thing but called it something else.

That's what makes Jesus such a profound and mysterious figure to this day. He was a highly Evolved Perfect Being who came down as one of us to shepherd, guide, inspire, and uplift the mass consciousness of Earth. He took all the garbage, all the out-grown, false belief systems and negativy of the past Age; of the Old Law and allowed it to wreak havoc on his body. Since he was a high priest, a high functioning Seer he was enacting a ritual whereby he was the LAMB and there was no real Lamb needed. He was exposing the real SIN which continues to enslave human souls to constant rebirth and cycles of regression. And that is "passing the buck" "transmitting your pain to someone else" "scapegoating" "passing the blame" "making Victims of your own victimhood". This is all negative karma that holds us back. That is why he said to the crowds- "The Good News I bring you is this...your CAPTIVITY is OVER...your captivity to sin". Since energy can not be destroyed, he was transforming this energy, these patterns and systems into Love and forgiveness on the Cross.

That is why the New Way is forgiveness. We can discard and move past our karma with forgiveness. IF we forgive others, we will be forgiven. It is no longer "you can't do this" "You can't sleep with him" "you can't go here" "you can't have all that money!" It's not about "no's" anymore. It's about YES. But you will receive "No" if you continue to make others into victims of your judgements, hates, condemnations, etc. You are binding yourself and the other to more lifetimes of RE-learning the same lesson until you move out of it and learn forgiveness and compassion. That is why the CROSS was only part of the story but Christianity makes it about everything. It's a CROSS for a reason. It is "crossing over to a new Threshold" "a Crossroads that humanity reached" "A Crossing out of negative karma to Grace", "a crossing to a new consciousness" "crossing out fear with Love". And it was on an actual "Tree" which symbolizes the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, in Jesus' body you witness God destroying the duality that we have sunken into- you and God are separated, it is you vs. them, my Likes and Dislikes, the Saints from the Sinners".

Jesus bridged the wisdom path of the Enlightened Ones (the East) and the prophetic mantle of the Hebrew Seers (Israel): personal God-experience and service/justice for others in the world.

That belief system was suppose to end and start humanity off to a new start, but the Christian religions just continue to promote these patterns and belief systems of a Tribal Age. Unfortunately it won't be entirely purged until the Second Coming because these energies are very old, attractive and appeal to the ego. They may never go away which is tragic in the end.

Well, regarding "energies", am, you are referring to this evolved organic spectrum, in time and space. Most everyone involved in these discussions are thinking and speaking from this perception and viewpoint.
This situation is not the greater reality and truth, and we should understand, since Einstein, it is in fact illusory. Even the scriptures speak of how there will an end to the material world, as experienced and percieved currently.
From the perspective of the Truth, involving the timeless, the future is a known, and all is accounted for.

[Yessy]

Originally Posted by Frozen Ghost

This has been the question since Jesus was crucified over 2000 years ago. I know there are a lot of varying opinions on the forum, share them please and tell us a little about why you think he's one or the other. I have a part two question about this topic, but will share that later in another thread. Thanks in advance to all who share their thoughts.

Jesus is Divine Savior.

And He is so much more!

50 Names and Titles of Jesus:

1. Almighty One – “…who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev. 1:8
2. Alpha and Omega – “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” Rev. 22:13
3. Advocate – “My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.” 1 John 2:1
4. Author and Perfecter of Our Faith – “Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Heb. 12:2
5. Authority – “Jesus said, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.” Matt. 28:18
6. Bread of Life – “Then Jesus declared, ‘I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.’” John 6:35
7. Beloved Son of God – “And behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.” Matt. 3:17
8. Bridegroom – “And Jesus said to them, “Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast.” Matt. 9:15
9. Chief Cornerstone – “The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone.” Ps. 118:22
10. Deliverer – “And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.” 1 Thess.1:10
11. Faithful and True – “I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.” Rev.19:11
12. Good Shepherd - “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.” John 10:11
13. Great High Priest – “Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession.” Heb. 4:14
14. Head of the Church – “And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church.” Eph. 1:22
15. Holy Servant – “…and grant that Your bond-servants may speak Your word with all confidence, while You extend Your hand to heal, and signs and wonders take place through the name of Your holy servant Jesus." Acts 4:29-30
16. I Am – “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:58
17. Immanuel – “…She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel, which means 'God with us.’” Is. 7:14
18. Indescribable Gift – “Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift.” 2 Cor. 9:15
19. Judge – “…he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead.” Acts 10:42
20. King of Kings – “These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.” Rev. 17:14
21. Lamb of God – “The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” John 1:29
22. Light of the World – "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." John 8:12
23. Lion of the Tribe of Judah – “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.” Rev. 5:5
24. Lord of All – “For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Phil. 2:9-11
25. Mediator – “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” 1 Tim. 2:5
26. Messiah – “We have found the Messiah" (that is, the Christ).” John 1:41
27. Mighty One – “Then you will know that I, the Lord, am your Savior, your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.” Is. 60:16
28. One Who Sets Free – “So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.” John 8:36
29. Our Hope – “…Christ Jesus our hope.” 1 Tim. 1:1
30. Peace – “For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility,” Eph. 2:14
31. Prophet – “And Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household.” Mark 6:4
32. Redeemer – “And as for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, and at the last He will take His stand on the earth.” Job 19:25
33. Risen Lord – “…that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.” 1 Cor. 15:3-4
34. Rock – “For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.” 1 Cor. 10:4
35. Sacrifice for Our Sins – “This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” 1 John 4:10
36. Savior – “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” Luke 2:11
37. Son of Man – “For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10
38. Son of the Most High – “He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David.” Luke 1:32
39. Supreme Creator Over All – “By Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…” 1 Cor. 1:16-17
40. Resurrection and the Life – “Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die.” John 11:25
41. The Door – “I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture.” John 10:9
42. The Way – “Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 14:6
43. The Word – “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:1
44. True Vine - "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.” John 15:1
45. Truth – “And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32
46. Victorious One – “To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.” Rev. 3:21
47. – 50. Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace – “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” Is. 9:6
All this…and so much more.
He alone is worthy