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Old 06-09-2011, 10:51 AM
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Change Happening Right NOW

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Originally Posted by A peaceful mind.
... But many will be blind before they can see

Many are seeing quite nicely RIGHT NOW.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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Evolution and what humanity must go through to evolve – I don’t see this as a fear based thing but as something has to end / die so that something has to start / live.

14 of 15 lines come off as fear based.

That something must die for something else to begin is a very polarized either-or POV. These paradigm shifts aren’t all at one time w/ a previous way of thinking stopping & a new one starting, but gradual, then increasing.

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In the end light will shine :O)

End of what?????? The light is shining RIGHT NOW.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:53 AM
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And it will begin...

It is not as the media would have you believe, it is not the end of days...

It is the beginning of a new age.

The Mayan Calendar which started on the 11th of August 3114BC will end on the 21st of December 2012 – completing a 5,125 year cycle.

The Hindu Calendar states that a Golden Age will start 5,000 years after the beginning of the Kali Yuga. This Golden Age will begin in the year 2012.

The ‘calendar in stone’ in the Great Pyramid tells of a Phoenix Cycle linked to our galactic orbit. The present time period ends in the year 2012.

The Cherokee Calendar ends in 2012, ‘when all will be reborn’.

New Ages, Golden Eras and Times of Rebirth...
...foretold by many cultures and beliefs that never came into contact with each other.

In this new age the current spiritual awakening will take flight and sweep the world into a frenzy of growth and development. This is our chance to shed off the restricting clothes of the old world and dress ourselves in a new cloak of learning, enlightenment and acceptance.

Prepare yourself for the coming times.
im sorry, but thats simply not true, one cycle of the Mayan calendar ands on Dec. 12th 2012, the entire calendar doesnt end until Oct. 13th, 4772, and as to the length of the Hindu Yugas, youre taking quite a step there, because no one's assessment of when one age begins or ends actually agrees with any others, so that depends on who's point of view you choose to accept, but that has nothing to do with reality...
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:55 PM
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Well ill stop answering the same questions over and over.

If you cant recognize and interprete what I write that's how it is. We all see things differently at each stage we are at.

If you chose to read this with fear that's how it is, I don't blame you.

There is nothing to fear form what I write just evolution as I see it.

I wish you all the best and accept the ways you see things.

Peace and love to you all

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Old 06-09-2011, 05:01 PM
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im sorry, but thats simply not true, one cycle of the Mayan calendar ands on Dec. 12th 2012, the entire calendar doesnt end until Oct. 13th, 4772, and as to the length of the Hindu Yugas, youre taking quite a step there, because no one's assessment of when one age begins or ends actually agrees with any others, so that depends on who's point of view you choose to accept, but that has nothing to do with reality...
by the way that shouldve said ends not ands...
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Old 06-09-2011, 05:37 PM
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If you chose to read this with fear that's how it is, I don't blame you.

There is nothing to fear form what I write.
Sorry, but that's a serious copout, Apm. You're the one posting the fear-based ideas and words and imaginings. We're all just responding to your comments and pointing that out to you. To attempt to then throw it back in peoples' faces like that is really a bit silly, c'mon now. I don't even know if you realize you're doing that with half your comments. People say things you apparently don't like, and you respond by insinuating they're either blind, or can't hear, or are at some other (I assume lower) level of understanding than you. Goodness me.

If you don't like it that people call your writings fear-based, then don't write "A WARNING: The earth will open up!" It doesn't get much simplier than that.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:20 AM
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I personally can't wait until 2012 is over so I don't have to continue to listen to groundless ideas of how we should interpret the Mayan calendar.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:25 PM
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im sorry, but thats simply not true, one cycle of the Mayan calendar ands on Dec. 12th 2012, the entire calendar doesnt end until Oct. 13th, 4772, and as to the length of the Hindu Yugas, youre taking quite a step there, because no one's assessment of when one age begins or ends actually agrees with any others, so that depends on who's point of view you choose to accept, but that has nothing to do with reality...

I said a 5,000 year cycle. My words were not exact I apologise for that but I meant that specific cycle not their calendar.

If peoples views vary then I see no reason to point that out. Interpretation is how humans gauge reality. They are all similarly linked and pointing to a new age period around the same time.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:36 PM
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I find it a little amusing this seems to upset some.

It doesn't stir any fear or trepidation in me, but then I know beyond the shadow of a doubt my world will not end next year...

I do find the prophecies and ancient history fascinating. Symbolic language is universal and amazing.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:00 AM
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The Grand Elder of The Living Maya has said numerous times in articles and in videos and over a live internet lecture that I watched that we will know when the 5,200 year cycle is up when we enter the central magnetic axis, his own words, which could be in 10, 20, or maybe more years, they aren't 100% sure but know we are very close. The CMA, he says, is above the earth and is so strong it makes all of the other planets move. They are not sure to the exact timing because the darklings came over from Europe & joined forces with the sagras, or negative energies that were controlled by the Children of The Sun, and literally raised hell here destroying much of their information. Most of their knowledge is passed down orally anyway. He said we will all know when we are in the axis, which marks the end of the calendar, because the sun will go away for a lengthy period. I had asked him about that over the live internet lecture and he said when the sun comes back, north will not be north anymore. Who knows what that exactly means. The Earth will keep revolving around the sun while entering and inside of the CMA but because the other planets of the solar system are entering the CMA one of the other there will be an overcharge of energy which he said will be so strong he himself may die and others that are weak will die, there will be a lot of death to the sick, very young, very old. Also, because of the destruction of our Mother she may also have a very hard time dealing with this depending on what kind of shape we get into their in.

Here is the text to a video that I typed out of the Grand Elder who is Don Alejandro Cirilo Perez Oxlaj who is a 13th generation Mayan High Priest and who is also given the title "Messenger of The Maya" (Here is a site that is promoting and educating about his own movie, Shift of The Ages, and a little Bio on him if you do not believe me http://www.shiftoftheages.com/grand-...lo-perez-oxlaj, you better check for yourself so you know without a doubt!!!) speaking in Japan March of 2008 talking about the central magnetic axis.

End of the Mayan Calendar: Entering the Central Magnetic Axis
Japan, March 2008
Wandering Wolf:

So this is what the prophecy is referring to when it says the return of the ancestors and the return of the men of wisdom. Men of wisdom are those who love, this change, the/y work for the benefit of humanity and they work for the love of peace. It’s that many people, there are many talks, some people referring to that the world will end in 2012. This is part of the Mayan calendar. We call it the calendar of the long count. This is a calendar that has 5,200 years. This one has been confirmed and reconfirmed by our ancestors when they were making it and it represents one period of the Sun. Because Mother Earth is revolving around the Sun and at the end of the 5,200 years the Earth enters a central magnetic axis. We the Mayans call it central magnetic axis and it’s so immense, it’s so huge, and it has so much magnetic force, that it’s what makes all of the other planets move and that, the Earth is going to enter this space. We are very close to entering that space but when the time comes when the Earth enters that space we will not be able to see the sun for a period of maybe 24 or 36 or 48 hours, we don’t know exactly how long it will take. So during that time that the Earth is inside this space we will not be able to see the Sun so it’s going to be in darkness for a while, a few hours. So according to our writings what we have seen is the Earth will enter the central magnetic axis but while she’s inside there it continues revolving but it’s not the only one who will be there, the other planets come in one after another they are entering this space, so there is going to be an overcharge of energy. Because of that, the overcharge of energy, due to the many planets being inside this space at the same time, people who are not strong, you know, people who are ill, or the elderly, it will be too much energy that they may not be able to withstand it, so there is going to be a lot of death.

Youtube video of text I copied. Check for yourself after reading the Bio, and you are well on your way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwgYIfVVMh8

I'll post it anyway here is his Bio on the site:

Grand Elder Grandfather Cirilo Perez Oxlaj’s Mayan spirit name is Wakatel Utiw, which means “Wandering Wolf” in his native language. He is regarded as the Voice of the Jungle and the Messenger of the Maya; we also know him as 'Tata' which most affectionately, 'Grandfather' in his native language. Wandering Wolf is responsible for guiding us through a prophesied evolutionary transition called the Shift of the Ages. He relays not only potent messages filled with hope and promise, but also grave warnings about the changes we must make. He tells us we are living in the time when the ancestors, as well as men and women of wisdom, return to usher in a new era of global harmony and a new phase of human evolution.

Wandering Wolf serves as: leader of the National Mayan Council of Elders of Guatemala; Day Keeper of the Mayan Calendar; 13th generation Quiche Mayan Spiritual Leader; a founder and Grand Elder of the Continental Council of Elders & Spiritual Guides of the Americas; Extraordinary Ambassador in the Guatemalan government representing the indigenous pueblos; and an international lecturer on Mayan culture.

His mathematical provenance extends to the traditional and elegant mathematics of the Mayan Long Count Calendar, which culminates in the Mayan year “Zero,” or approximately 2012 in the Gregorian calendar. Grandfather Cirilo holds the great honor of keeping sacred the teachings, visions, ceremonies and prophecies of the Maya people.

A cogent messenger, Wandering Wolf warns us that we have arrived at a critical crossroads. The message is simple and clear: we must change the way we live NOW. Since we have left the Maya “BelejebBalamTiku,” or “Period of Darkness; Period of the Nine Hells,” Grandfather’s mission includes alerting the world through story and prophecies. In 2005, Wandering Wolf asked producer and filmmaker Steve Copeland to document the sacred saga of the Maya and the ancient prophecies now being fulfilled.
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A Message on the Nine Hells by a different Mayan medicine man and time keeper

Question: Could you talk about the 20 calendars?
Answer: The most important of the Maya calendars are the Tzolk'in and the Tzolk'ij. The Tzolk'in is for the observation of time, and of the different energies that interrelate with the human being. It generate 260 days, which is the cycle of the Mayan calendar. 260 days in the Gregorian calendar is 9 months. This nine months is the time of gestation of the human being, which in the Gregorian calendar, is a 9-month calendar. Some people have gotten the idea that it is a cosmic calendar. It is not.

Yes, there is a cosmic calendar. It is called Ox Lahuj Baktun. This is also a calendar for the cycle of the insects, and a planetary calendar called Ha'ab. There are four prophetic calendars. One is Tiku. This runs through two cycles of different duration and different time cycles. There are in cycles of 52 years. One has a time lapse of 9 times 52 years, and it's known as Belajeb Bolamtiku. It's duration is 468 years, and to abide by the Mayan prophecies, it began at the exact day and hour that Hernando Cortez came to Veracruz, Mexico. This calendar has already elapsed. Belajeb Bolamtiku means the nine periods of darkness. Nine Hells is another name that it has been given. The ethnic towns and groups of the Americas had to live through these cycles. They lived the paths of darkness in times of tears, which became extreme when property owners lost their lands. They went through periods of much sadness. But as a result, the peoples from the North, and the Central and South Americas realized that they had to live by the knowledge left to them. Thanks to the great elders who preserved and shared this great knowledge.

A new cycle began in 1991. It is called Ox Lahuj Baktun, which means the cycle of the 13 heavens. It has a duration of 13 times 52 years, totaling 676 years. We Mayans realize that it doesn't start immediately. Everything begins gradually, not like a light that you can push the button and the light comes on. It will take time. This cycle has nine years of gestation which will end in the 2001. This period of gestation is like the nine months period that it takes to create a human being -- only this gestation takes nine years. In these years of gestation for the 13 heavens, it will be like the phases the mother goes through when she first experiences a time of nausea, then of the baby kicking, until finally the pain of birth. This will be the union of the two cycles.

The Ox Lahji Baktun calendar spans 5200 years and it will end on December 21, 2012, of the Gregorian calendar. We are in the fourth part of these two cycles that began in 3114 BC. When we put together these two calendars, it gives us one period of great destruction for all humanity.

We are living in the times of the prophecies now in another calendar of Ox Lahuj Baktun. It also speaks about the cycle of the great changes. In the Mayan calendar, there are still 15 more years to be completed in this period of the year 5185 before this calendar can be completed. When this cycle is completed, it will mark a period of 2100 years. Another restoration of the planet will then begin -- Because the world once again has fallen into neglecting nature.

The world has been led by the materialistic ways, and humanity needs again to transcend a cycle and to live in a more subtle dimension. Right now only the ethnic and spiritual people on this planet are living this process. These changes will be very catastrophic, and my vision is that the different ethnic and spiritual groups will come together as the new warriors of the light. They will use tools of love to bring the message to humanity that their attitude must change.

We must respect all living things. Even though we have neglected and abused Mother Earth, taken her skin off, contaminated her waters, wind, and air; she still nurtures us. We must join hands and treat each other respectfully to reach a higher level of consciousness in order to survive. When a great part of humanity begins to understand this process and act upon it, the drastic changes, detailed in the prophecies, might not be so drastic.

Even just a few enlightened people can light the future. If you have the light, it is not necessary for many lights to be lit. That doesn't mean that many people will be carrying that light. Like the great indigenous elders, there can only be a few, but they can have the force to bring that tremendous message so that we can really hear, feel, and take action. It's hard work. It's big work. It's a big job. But if one person carries that light, they can bring that little light to many people and create one huge light. Show your understanding and your path to others so that they may follow, and that is the salvation of humanity. Then the changes of Mother Earth won't be that drastic. (End of Transcription)

BIO....Gerardo Barrios Kaanek, Mayan Medicine man and Time Keeper, was born in Guatemala. He began his spiritual journey at the age of 13 with a Maya Master Shaman, Ajq’iij in his own Mayaland where the Maya tradition has been alive for thousands of years.
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And now the Grand Elder's latest message to humanity:

5 No’j

April 8th, 2011

Antigua Guatemala, Guatemala

To my brothers and sisters around the world:

In the name of the Heart of the Heavens and the Heart of the Earth, greetings from Guatemala and the National Council of Elders Mayas, Xinca and Garifuna.

I, Wakatel Utiw, “Wandering Wolf,” Cirilo Perez Oxlaj, humbly offer this message to you. I speak now of what we see happening in the world today. According to the Maya Calendars we are living in the time of the 13 Baktun and 13 Ajau. This is a time that comes accompanied with great pain. We are seeing a series of events approaching us as never seen before, these events come charged with tremendous sufferings and pain. They will happen in different places. They will touch us equally, men and women, old and young, indigenous or non-indigenous.

All this is due to the contamination. The atmosphere has lost its control. We the Maya see it with much sadness that we will see hunger and drought. Plagues will invade the fields and affect the agriculture; new illnesses will appear and will be difficult to cure. The sun rays are getting stronger and stronger as time goes by.

Our recommendation to avoid more suffering is this: No more nuclear testing, no more wars, no more mining and other explorations, no more use of chemicals. This is the only way the human race, the animals and the ancient trees could survive and see the new Sun*. If we do not change, few will be the ones to survive and see the arrival of the 6th Sun.

Let’s reconcile with our Creator and our Mother Earth, each one in our own way. For us the Maya will be with our Sacred Fire.

Respectfully,

Wandering Wolf

SS: This note below is obviously from the people who are helping him make the movie, the independent film makers.
*Note: RE: “Sun.” Contrary to popular belief the living elders of the Maya do not agree that December 21, 2012 is the end of their calendar. A new “Sun” represents the beginning of a new Long Count cycle in the calendar system of approximately 5,200 years, which they say may not happen for many years.

*SS note: The end of the calendar is when we enter the CMA as described above.

Congrats if you made it through all of that. Hopefully it resonates strongly with you and hopefully you realize who this man is and why I am sharing his messages.

Much Love.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:30 AM
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My response to all this is......

We'll just have to wait and see.
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