Bliss

[JustBe]

I’m under the impression that bliss is not permanent. I’ve watched people move into it and through it, some in it for lengthy periods, others momentarily. I’ve also observed some who seem to use it in their process to burn up old energies. Not through conscious desire, but rather, it’s an active part of their processing style. It’s activated in the body most naturally.

In some of my observations I’ve wondered if bliss is a by product of sorts? Or is it activation, that allows you to reside in a comfortable higher state or place, whilst the body goes through deeper processors of letting go? Namely trauma or grief. It takes you out and removed from what the body is undergoing in its process?

I’m not a bliss person as such. It’s never been part of my process.

If bliss is an electro-chemical reaction, in the body, what’s it reacting to?

So I’m curious what your take on bliss is either as you’ve experienced it or your awareness of it is?

[Unseeking Seeker]

To be clear what bliss is, as I can share from direct experience, what it is, is an unceasing rapture pulsation humming without end, felt distinctly in the physical, manifesting anywhere in body but mostly at main chakra zones, the crown, Bindu point (that bald spot on back of head), heart, throat, spinal column, third eye, Guru chakra (over front, between third eye and crown) etc..

Bliss is permanent, it does not abate. If we get up in the middle of the night, it is there, while driving, working, eating, socialising … it is like our breath or heartbeat.

How does bliss come about? Well, speaking for myself, it represents a stage of the kundalini activation process. After rise to crown, polarity balance occurs. Male and female polarities balance, it is disconcerting to say the least since our gender is impacted for a while* (*10-15 minutes). In my case it was a guided process, an invisible master asked me not to interfere with the process. Note, if we resist, the activation is stalled.

After polarity balance, the cosmic egg, Hirayangarbha (information on Wiki) in head split into two. We may say, the one becomes two, polarised. Two forms, male and female (represented in scriptures as Shiva & Shakti) descended from head to heart. I ‘saw’ this, just as the word ‘Hirayangarbha’, which I had never heard before was communicated to me telepathically.

In heart an explosion of bliss took place and the central vein, Sushumna was ignited with bliss magnetism. It has remained as such from that day onward. Ramana would be pleased, since it is something that does not come and go!

Well, that’s how it is, in simple words.

Edit: the bliss in duality, in body shifts to ineffable peace, when we are in state of Self (self-existent living light), in singularity.

[JustBe]

Thank you such a detailed explanation unseeker.

I can see that your process was to open a merging, to end (perceived) separation but what does it serve in your day to day life humming in the background?

And your edit-which is the end point? Peace or bliss?

I’m a bit confused if you mean peace is attained after bliss ?

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ JustBe ~ how does bliss serve us? Well, for one, it is the pinnacle of joy, known only when imbibed and assimilated, otherworldly, we may say. Secondly, it fixates our attention in a continuum of mindful awareness, keeping focus on the present moment effortlessly. Thirdly, having garnered bliss, purity of heart is ensured, since all other ‘goals’ are ‘lesser’. Inner conflict ends, we become heart centric. In any case, it’s not about how bliss serves us, it represents a transmutation of consciousness.

About peace, in singularity, there is no identity, no form, as such no benign bliss friction, since there is no polarity. Therefore, Self, as light pulsating renewing itself in itself feels ineffable peace rather than bliss. In body - bliss, in formlessness - peace.

[Miss Hepburn]

Bliss - and Hi Unseeking, funny to see you here...hahaha, kidding.

I don't have that much to add. It's sheer ecstasy from head to toe.
And when in it...you also know, "Oh, this is the Reality of existence."
As in, Satchitanand - or ananda ---Truth is the consciousness of bliss.

And here I quote C.S.Lewis - past copyright laws.

"If you want joy, power, peace, eternal life, you must get close to, or even into, the thing that has them.
They are not a sort of prize which God could, if He chose, just hand out to anyone.
They are a great fountain of energy and beauty spurting up at the very centre of reality.
If you are close to it, the spray will wet you: if you are not, you will remain dry."

For people that have no idea what we are talking about:
A man that had an experience wrote a beautiful book on it.
Charles Earnest Essert - "Secret Splendor - The Journey Within", 1973

Then, there is also, the classic "Cosmic Consciousness'' by Richard M. Bucke, 1901

And: "The Direct Means To Eternal Bliss" by Michael Langford, 2015
(NOT to be confused with "The Most Direct Means to Eternal Bliss" ---that's a whole diff book.)

[Starman]

In my opinion, bliss and ecstasy are the rapture of love. There are graduated feelings of happiness and joy; bliss is the extreme of happiness and joy. I definitely embrace that bliss is the inextricable fabric at the core of our deeper being.

I have been absolutely and thoroughly intoxicated on inner bliss. If you have a Satguru, that person can give you darshan which will help keep you in inner bliss, or in spiritual development we can get to a point where we can give ourselves darshan.

Darshan is also readily available when you meditate with a group. Darshan is the presence of an advanced spiritually skilled being, and their mere presence can move a person to feel bliss. Peace, love, and bliss are always with us, but we are not always with it.

You do not need a reason to be happy, or to feel bliss.

[FallingLeaves]

my own take is a little more practical

while I haven't tried to go to the land of bliss, my experience with other 'feelings' (both the lovely and the ugly) is you can either sit there forever, reveling in such a good feeling or resenting such a bad one, or you can interact, burn away the feeling, and see what is beyond.

in my view most people have been inclined to treat places like 'bliss' as a kind of tourist attraction, a stopping point, a parking lot to sit in and look at the view.

Which in my mind is exactly what they are designed for.

I think the cherubim with the flaming sword is relentless, in its desire to keep us from seeing past the veil, seeing the true nature of the 'world', and keeping us out of eden. There are all sorts of parking lots to get stuck in when you are heeding that little fella...

not that I think that is a bad thing, god made it this way for a reason. I totally agree with my conception of the 'why' and so I'm not really trying to get to eden or see past the veil or understand the 'true nature' of reality myself any more, but, still, I'm kinda tired of small boxes and would like something just a little more expansive than what everyone else seems to be choosing....
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i do think I would have happily gone to the land of bliss with everyone else, if I thought others would allow it. But I didn't think that and now I think, thank you god for small favors!

[JustBe]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

@ JustBe ~ of consciousness.
as such no benign bliss friction, since there is no polarity. Therefore, Self, as light pulsating renewing itself in itself feels ineffable peace rather than bliss. In body - bliss, in formlessness - peace.

Thanks again. I’m not gelling with your last paragraph entirely. Can you clarify more?

So bliss is the resulting experience after your transmutation of self? Or is it still transmuting? As an example I’ve watched someone enter their deepest wound and activate the whole stream of feeling and connection, anger, rage, then bliss, then love then peace. It seemed to show me that those streams are all part of moving us back to peace with ourselves and life. Rather than needing to reside in anything? If you’re streaming this into your experience continuously does that mean you’re still transmuting to a path of peace? I’m guessing you’ve got no control over its flow, it’s just happening?

Why do you think you have a continuous stream humming all the time and others describe it through processors, not as something permanent?

Like others here are describing it and understand it, but no one is sharing its constantly flowing through them?

I’ve got lots more to ask you, but I’ll leave that for next post.


I understand joy for no reason/causeless in my own process. It can be a lively bubble of aliveness. It for me doesn’t remind me to be or do anything, more I realise it’s a clarity of being clear, grounded and connected. I’m also aware it’s through the transmutation process, it’s the resulting growth, it’s the potential gained.

[Unseeking Seeker]

@ JustBe ~ there’s nothing to think. Bliss becomes an embodiment of being, a permanent attribute. Thought has nothing to do with it, because bliss is a state of our aliveness in this body, not a concept.

As for evolution, progression, ascension is endless. With bliss, you may say, we are in all time meditation, since the rapture generated is compelling, it fixates our attention in the now-continuum, sans thought, as awareness self-aware.

About singularity, that represents our true Self or as some call it, higher self. The recognition of Self comes about suddenly, an epiphany of sorts. We can literally see ego drop off just as a dead leaf falls off a tree. Then, bereft of identity defined by organic form, we see ourselves as we are, living light, renewing itself within itself in a singularity, with no coming or going or doing to be done, feeling complete and in time and space transcended ineffable peace. The Self has no attributes.

For the moment, we can focus on duality. In duality, we have bliss as divine magnetism pulsating within the body. It is a physical experience unending, felt vividly and unmistakably. No thought, no affirmations, no visualisation ~ it is as it is.

[JustBe]

In my curiosity to understand and ask questions about this topic, I’m confused you are directing me not to think and ask, as my curiosity is directed to do.

I’m not identifying bliss as thought in my asking.

If it’s a permanent embodiment, how can you know this. Of course it’s a stream running through your being ongoing now, but could it be yours too is a tool of transmuting just longer than most? I’m not trying to take away from your experience of now, more looking at a number of people and how they utilise and connect to bliss. Why some experience it as a by product in process and integrate that realisation as themselves and someone like you who is in a continuum of bliss.

I was more interested in you exploring through the questions I posed if you are able too?

Why do you feel some experience bliss as a stream of realisation where they only tap into it to be aware and then they move through it as an integrative tool and others like yourself have it streaming ongoing in the background?

in understanding the experiences many move through, it seems to me that there are many streams of our aliveness or true state that are accessible and supportive to our deeper grounded state of being. As an example I’m not disconnected from my true state by those sudden bursts and openings of joy for no reason when ‘not there’ or not pronounced, I’m aware that it never leaves me, just not pronounced at the level when opening to reveal the higher instrument.

In the integration process it seems to me the more we deepen and transmute the less pronounced things become? Settle into being aware and open?

I guess from where you stand ‘now’ you can only guage on what is for you right now.