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11-05-2012, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hybrid
Can you dispute this. Is the set rule false?
Matter as an existence must occupy space in point in time.
Isnt this so?
You made your own definition of the word present.
Present is now. But Buddha said things are in a flux (in constant change).
So how can you capture the now moment when its in the past before you know it?
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Well, you could look at it like this: the present is the only thing that exists and everything is essentially one with it. You're not just in the present, you ARE the present. The present is life itself, and its in flux, its moving. We perceive that movement as time.
The present is like a boat moving through the water. The wake created by the boat is the past. When viewed from that perspective, it makes sense to say that the present is the origin of the past. The present is the cause of the past, not vice versa. |
11-05-2012, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
Well, you could look at it like this: the present is the only thing that exists and everything is essentially one with it. You're not just in the present, you ARE the present. The present is life itself, and its in flux, its moving. We perceive that movement as time.
The present is like a boat moving through the water. The wake created by the boat is the past. When viewed from that perspective, it makes sense to say that the present is the origin of the past. The present is the cause of the past, not vice versa.
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It must be an eternal present to be such. |
11-05-2012, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Humm
.. we are also free to imagine the greatest, highest, lovingest world imaginable.
The question ceases to be 'What is real' and becomes 'What reality should we imagine?'
Created unconsciously, it is a trap - created consciously, it is the greatest human power.
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Bingo!
What reality do we want to imagine?
As Abraham-Hicks is trying to teach us:
"We can be and do and have anything we want."
"You have so much power, you have the power to make
yourselves miserable"... or not.
What a nice addition you are here, Winston; nice thread. 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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11-05-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hybrid
It must be an eternal present to be such.
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Exactly 
And thank you, Miss Hepburn  |
11-05-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
... the present is the only thing that exists and everything is essentially one with it.
You're not just in the present, you ARE the present. The present is life itself, and its in flux, its moving.
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Daily quote 5/10/12:
You live in a pulsating, vibrating Universe of advanced harmonics.
Everything that exists, in your air, in your dirt, in your water, and in your bodies,
is vibration in motion—and all of it is managed
by the powerful Law of Attraction.
There is nothing that exists outside of this vibrational nature, and as you learn to accept
your vibrational nature, and begin to consciously utilize your emotional vibrational indicators,
you will gain conscious control of your personal creations
and of the outcomes of your life experience.
--- Abraham (-Hicks)
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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11-05-2012, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
In order for something to exist it must have duration, it must exist for a certain amount of time. To say that something exists for no time at all, that at the very moment that it comes into existence it also passes out of it, is to say that it doesn’t exist at all.
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What does it mean for something to exist for no time at all? All that something has to do is exist NOW. If it comes into existence before passing out of existence, then no matter how long a "time" that is, it has existed.
Time is a measure of change. Anything that changes exists, even if every distinguishable form is very fleeting.
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The past and the future do not exist; they are not there, in the world.
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So what? They do not exist in actuality, but that doesn't mean that one can simply discount them and declare them unreal.
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How large is the gap between the past and the future? What is the duration of the present? A minute? A second? A nano-second?
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Who cares? These are just math games, not serious philosophy.
eudaimonia,
Mark
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11-05-2012, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Eudaimonist
Who cares? These are just math games, not serious philosophy.
eudaimonia,
Mark
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What is serious philosophy? |
11-05-2012, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Winston
What is serious philosophy?
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A serious approach to these questions, not mere brain teasers. |
11-05-2012, 06:29 PM
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Greetings..
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Originally Posted by Eudaimonist
A serious approach to these questions, not mere brain teasers.
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Agreed, superficial seems to be favorable to taking radical responsibility for one's own existence.. sorry for the bluntness..
'Law of Attraction' is just repackaged 'Power of Positive Thinking', nothing too mystical.. another version of the 'placebo effect', power of the mind..
Be well.. |
11-05-2012, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TzuJanLi
Greetings..
Agreed, superficial seems to be favorable to taking radical responsibility for one's own existence.. sorry for the bluntness..
'Law of Attraction' is just repackaged 'Power of Positive Thinking', nothing too mystical.. another version of the 'placebo effect', power of the mind..
Be well..
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Funny - you mean your argument against this is the 'power of the mind'...??
Way to 'take radical responsibility' ... I'm afraid you haven't thought this one through either! |
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