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Old 18-05-2013, 08:06 AM
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"New" medication for diabetes

I have been injecting Insulin for just over 2 years and my blood sugar is rock-stable. Problem ? - weight gain. So, I am about to start a new treatment. The Insulin is halved and is the long-acting variety. To this is added a new [to me] drug [ Exenatide ]. It is an enzyme which boots the pancreas - very small dose [ 5 micro-gram x 2 daily ] One of the potential side-effects is WEIGHT LOSS. Will let you know what happens.
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Old 18-05-2013, 06:12 PM
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Good luck with it, norseman. I hope the new medicines are beneficial for you.
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Old 18-05-2013, 08:52 PM
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Hey norsie. I hope it works out, too. I'm still around. I've been thinking seriously about getting the HCG injections at a nearby weight loss clinic..
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Old 19-05-2013, 08:29 AM
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Hi SG. I have given up the gym. After 2 years, 4 days a week - no weight loss. Mind, I now look like the Incredible Hulk with a beer-belly
I grilled the Diabetic Consultant at the hospital and he agreed that my type of weight gain does not respond to exercise. I think I will keep my stash of Insulin in the fridge a while longer - see how it pans out first.
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Old 20-05-2013, 02:58 AM
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I grilled the Diabetic Consultant at the hospital and he agreed that my type of weight gain does not respond to exercise.
I hate to say this but most medically trained Consultants in relation to most diseases, including diabetes, may in their heart's be well-meaning, but they're essentially trained to be lap-dogs for the pharmaceutical interests.

They know very well, as to how to make us sick, and have little to no clue as to what it takes to "cure" us, or to essentially keep us healthy in the first place...

But we can't totally blame them for all of this... most folks have grown addicted to really bad foods! And they'd rather die than change their trajectory... so even if the doctor or consultant knew ~exactly~ what to do to make a person live long and prosper, the individuals themselves wouldn't likely follow such advice, if it meant them having to give-up their candy....
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Old 20-05-2013, 01:20 AM
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I have been injecting Insulin for just over 2 years and my blood sugar is rock-stable. Problem ? - weight gain. So, I am about to start a new treatment. The Insulin is halved and is the long-acting variety. To this is added a new [to me] drug [ Exenatide ]. It is an enzyme which boots the pancreas - very small dose [ 5 micro-gram x 2 daily ] One of the potential side-effects is WEIGHT LOSS. Will let you know what happens.

My wife and I have both had issues with diabetes and we're addressing it quite nicely without the use of insulin... unless you're a type 1 diabetic then insulin is a scam... Get rid of the grains, look into paleo, or if you want to go vegetarian/vegan look-up Gabriel Cousens!

And watch the process at work in this film:
Reversing diabetes in 30 days
http://vimeo.com/25368327

My wife taught the medical version of addressing diabetes to low income patients as a nurse for a couple of years... she knows what they're teaching... she's now horrified by what she was being told to tell others...

Addressing diabetes requires life-style changes... not drugs... It's a low carb affair... not chemical patches...
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Old 20-05-2013, 07:03 AM
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Hi Norseman,

Hope all goes well for you :-)

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Old 20-05-2013, 01:30 PM
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So what is it with people?

People will be led down the isle of the most obvious dysfunctional medical assertions, each convinced that they're haplessly intelligent for doing so. Doing so clearly isn't working. Then you get the pink ribbon thing for women with cancer, in the mean time the industry is killing women with their "treatment of cancer" by the droves... But everyone hugs each other, and call that spiritual, they call that caring, people just keep getting sicker in the hands of this system and at the same time play their utmost at being spiritually composed.... this just strikes me as crazy...
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Old 20-05-2013, 02:06 PM
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And yet Stephen, I rely on a blend of Western and Eastern medical practices and, here I am 12 years longer than I was supposed to live. Reasons - stopping smoking + complex heart surgery AND meditation daily plus a lot of strolling in beautiful wild country.
p.s. even doctors rate my diet as excellent [Japanese style]
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Old 20-05-2013, 03:32 PM
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And yet Stephen, I rely on a blend of Western and Eastern medical practices and, here I am 12 years longer than I was supposed to live.
By who's account? The medical industry gives people "suppose to live" predictions all the time that turn out to be dreadfully wrong when "alternative" approaches are applied.. (I put "alternative" in quotes because in reality the medical industry is the experimental alternative, though they like selling themselves off as the only viable option...)

I've read over and over and over and over again about the medical industry sending people home to die, because the way the MI goes about its business, they know that this person will die in their hands. This same person will discover a natural alternative approach, make the necessary changes in their diets and what was once "terminal" has disappeared... sometimes within the year, sometimes within a week or two, depending on the severity of the situation.

My own case in point as it relates to what you're dealing with now. I have a glucose sensitivity. Pre-diabetic is the more appropriate label. I'm not surprised based on my diet of the many years preceding our nutritional appreciation. I added starch to my diet recently... did a postprandial glucose reading after just a half cup of white potatoes and was surprised that I had spiked to a brisk 196. So no more starches for awhile... and since we cutout all sugars, and grains, my baseline is comfortably low on carbs... I did a postprandial this morning after drinking carrot/apple juice along with coffee and kefir and clocked-in at 71.

It would be easy for me to spike it again if I wanted to... just eat a couple slices of whole wheat toast... but that would be dumb wouldn't it... :^)

Here's what you're up against... you trust these children in white coats... there are a wonderful collection of very healthy options that have their roots in thousands of years of observations. You could have addressed your heart issues quite readily without the knife... seriously, look into paleo and flip this stuff around naturally..

And... if your diet is so great then why are you having to take insulin? Based on your current situation it's quite obvious that somethings dreadfully lacking....

I'm currently reading 4 books on the subject of diabetes, all of which takes you off this creepy stuff called insulin (of which one of the side effects is weight gain).

There is a cure for Diabetes by Gabriel Cousens
Death to Diabetes by DeWayne McCulley (he was going into comas and spiking as high as 1300 before he did his research and cured himself of this problem)
One Son's Quest for the Cause and Cure of Diabetes by Dr James Chappell
And I'm just starting the following:
Beating Diabetes (A Harvard Medical School Book): Lower Your Blood Sugar, Lose Weight, and Stop Diabetes and Its Complications in Their Tracks by David Nathan ... this one looks promising as well...

There are other options other than the long string of medical applications, that not only don't work but tend to make things much worse in the long run...

Medications, are intended to interferer with a bodily process
while Natural methods tend to bolster and help support our own bodies ability to heal and live optimally... the wake-up call is to recognize, and then respond, to this difference...
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