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Old 23-01-2014, 02:23 AM
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Dear Spirit Guide Sparrow.

I have read the first 14 pages so far and love whot you have to say, there is some thing I feel I must ask before I can take in enymore info.

Im thinking about people born into extream poverty, as this must servearly hold them back from learning and growing and stuff.

Like I said realy like what you are saying.
I can see my self as being one of your most avid readers.
Dear Pagandelle,

Allow me to address your provided perspective on this.

What you have done my friend is you have applied your own measure and condition of value to something, to someone, you have observed from your own current state and quality of life. In effect, you have tried to measure another’s perception of value, of growth and of learning potential from your present vantage point as an outside exterior observer. This my friend leaves you at a disadvantage.

Many of those born into poverty develop very simple desires and values which are easily and freely attainable. These simple values are no less in worth or of less spiritual significance than those you yourself hold dear to you. This is to say, though these individuals hold very basic fundamental values, they are able to lead fulfilling lives much as you may understand a simple tree or forest animal to have. The sentient ancient tree actually leads a very fulfilling and spiritually connected existence, far beyond anything humans are currently able to grasp. Yet human beings generally perceive a tree to be a simple structure of low value and stature in the hierarchy of existence. This is because human ego places all things upon a mentality of hierarchy, and in doing so create barriers to higher understanding.
Those born into poverty tend not to dwell on fanciful automobiles, ambitious material careers or saving for a holiday in the Bahamas. Their focus is on community, connectivity and family value traditions. These focuses of nurture nature are actually something the western world neglects in their city societies. In this sense, who lives in true poverty?, those who live in abundance of community, connectivity and family values, or those who have to fight to survive and be heard amidst suffocating city lifestyles of a disconnected community?.

There is much more to be learnt from simplicity than meets the eye.

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Old 23-01-2014, 02:50 AM
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Let us be reminded that suffering is a product of thought. Regardless of what takes place within the physical reality it is thought, your thought about that reality, which causes the reality of suffering. Suffering occurs when you attach specific fear attributed values to an interpretation, or specific perception, of your view of reality. Perhaps it is you have an open physical wound, or that cancer has enveloped a region of your biology; this might lead to an impression of suffering in your reactive learnt attitude of thought. The truth of such would be, you have not sustained an injury nor have you become afflicted with cancer; your physical biological counterpart has. These physical biological components (which you identify as you) were infused together from the soup of the Earth and were not brought here by you, your ancient spirit. These components, in their raw state, were already upon the Earth existing independent of your already existent spirit prior to you being born. As such components come from and are of the Earth, such components are thusly prone to the flaws, frailties and fractionations associated with planet Earth and its environment. Just as your spirit detaches its etheric cord from those components do they return once more to the Earth from where they came. The spirit in its perfection and purity is never once subject to afflictions of the physical dimension, for it never at any time enters physical density reality. This nature of physicality should not in anyone’s wisdom beckon an attitude of suffering, if an accurate understanding of who they truly are remains present. All that becomes of the physical counterpart, which you tend to identify as you, is simply a part of physical nature. As such should not be condemned, feared or fought, but accepted with gratitude for whatever experience it allows you to become part of. The challenges, and the difficulties you face as a human being through the use of the body are not karmic conditions forced upon you, or some other predetermined form of spiritual learning you must endure to ascend, but are mere consequential values you inherit from interacting with physical reality and its many combined components. Suffering is not a prerequisite for enlightenment, ascension, or any other state of bliss or mastery of spirit nature.

Let us first understand from this then, that whatever apparent ailments or transient conditions afflict the human organism, your core energy and pure spirit consciousness remain unaffected at all times. This basic truth must be incorporated into your attitude and approach if you wish to align with an optimal healing outcome. What this attitude of understanding enables is a connectivity with your core vibrational state; that which you originally brought with you to Earth. This vibration has the capacity to heal cells of the physical biology when brought through your consciousness. Why is this? This is because your core central vibration contains sentient coded language which your biological cells are programmed to understand, and thus respond to that coded language by awakening their own optimal function. This is to say, they become alive and begin to function optimally and communicate efficiently with their surrounding cells. This core vibration is what you would equate to, or perhaps identify as unconditional love, and is what flows through your etheric cord, which is connected to your solar plexus. This encoded language flows through your biological energy centres and delivers the spirit gifts that you have through the various outlet applications you develop in your life.

Now before you indulge your human intellect and begin to map out complex details of the various energy centres of the human biology, simply stop, and let go of that necessity for mental detail. The human chakra centres and other connective streams will take care of themselves independently as you progress. It is not a prerequisite for healing or spiritual mastery to intellectualize the works and functionings of these processes. With the right attitude and approach, such processes will, like the rest of your biological functions, take care of themselves independent of your conscious control. Just as your heart or lungs do. What you must do is facilitate the optimal environment and conditions necessary for healing and wellbeing. The rest will take care of itself. This is to say, creating the conditions for your core central vibration to flow freely unrestricted through your solar plexus, through your central nervous system, spine and throughout your entire body. This in itself would be a normal and natural process which would require little effort on your conscious will. However, since birth you have built a whole fortress of walls and barriers within your physical biology, through diet and lifestyle, as well as those within mind and attitude. What you must do then is to start removing all the walls and barriers you have created in order that the natural rhythm and flow of your spirit essence can permeate freely through and to each and every cell of your body, and every thought within mind.

Healing then, at the root and source, must start with the removal of something, rather than the addition of something else. Connectivity on deeper levels cannot take place with existing barriers that you have build within you. Your task then is to find and remove them.

While Shen Shing Qigong certainly has many benefits, they are only going to be transient in effect for as long as other factors and focuses are not addressed. Shen Shing Qigong works to deliver your optimal energy source, and that of nurturing nature, through your physical biology and electromagnetic field. However, your optimal energy state available is only going to be at specific levels due to your current cellular condition and existing stress factors. If a pipe through which water flows is dirty or congested, one cannot expect the water to come out clean or flow with any consistent strength. The same applies to your own biological form. You can try to channel purity through Shen Shing Qigong, but if your instrument has not let go of other congestions of mind and body, you will only be able to channel certain frequencies of that within your capacity. You must seek to remove all harmful and adverse components that reside within the body, as well as within your mind and consciousness persona. This included unhealthy diets, lifestyles, living conditions, working conditions, relationship conditions, attitudes, behaviours and unresolved memory traumas or attachments. Look at each of these and identify something in each of them which has harmful and adverse influence over you.


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Old 23-01-2014, 05:58 PM
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Dear Pagandelle,
Allow me to address your provided perspective on this.What you have done my friend is you have applied your own measure and condition of value to something, to someone, you have observed from your own current state and quality of life. In effect, you have tried to measure another’s perception of value, of growth and of learning potential from your present vantage point as an outside exterior observer. This my friend leaves you at a disadvantage.
Many of those born into poverty develop very simple desires and values which are easily and freely attainable. These simple values are no less in worth or of less spiritual significance than those you yourself hold dear to you. This is to say, though these individuals hold very basic fundamental values, they are able to lead fulfilling lives much as you may understand a simple tree or forest animal to have. The sentient ancient tree actually leads a very fulfilling and spiritually connected existence, far beyond anything humans are currently able to grasp. Yet human beings generally perceive a tree to be a simple structure of low value and stature in the hierarchy of existence. This is because human ego places all things upon a mentality of hierarchy, and in doing so create barriers to higher understanding.Those born into poverty tend not to dwell on fanciful automobiles, ambitious material careers or saving for a holiday in the Bahamas. Their focus is on community, connectivity and family value traditions. These focuses of nurture nature are actually something the western world neglects in their city societies. In this sense, who lives in true poverty?, those who live in abundance of community, connectivity and family values, or those who have to fight to survive and be heard amidst suffocating city lifestyles of a disconnected community?.There is much more to be learnt from simplicity than meets the eye.-Sparrow
Dear Sparrow.

I remember a few years ago now sceans on the tv of African women with babys that had flys setled and buzzing round there faces suffering from starvation, this! is the kind of EXTREAM poverty I was talking about.

I feel there can be no excuse for this kind of suffering.

I allso realy love trees, realy love trees.

I m feeling upset as I feel my words have been misinturpreted.

I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth..... far from it.
I have allso had to deal with mental health problems and for some reason been put down all my life, so now feel I must make a stand.

Just felt I had to reply staight away to your responce about my words.
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Old 24-01-2014, 11:25 AM
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Aww pagandelle,
I'm sure sparrows comments weren't meant in the way you have interpreted them....but i do understand where you are coming from, with extreme starvation, and that of babies and young children.....it is amazing that those poor women could conceive let alone give birth in their fragile condition....so I know what you mean......
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Old 24-01-2014, 02:29 PM
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Dear Sparrow.

I remember a few years ago now sceans on the tv of African women with babys that had flys setled and buzzing round there faces suffering from starvation, this! is the kind of EXTREAM poverty I was talking about.

I feel there can be no excuse for this kind of suffering.

I allso realy love trees, realy love trees.

I m feeling upset as I feel my words have been misinturpreted.

I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth..... far from it.
I have allso had to deal with mental health problems and for some reason been put down all my life, so now feel I must make a stand.

Just felt I had to reply staight away to your responce about my words.
I am very much aware of the starving communities to which you refer.

You have, in a sense, reacted on emotional impulse to my information, where your own personal emotional stance on the given subject restricts you from perceiving or accepting a wider perspective presented to you. You would perhaps assume then that my words do not actually include or refer to those in extreme poverty, for you believe that they would be incapable of identifying value in community, connectivity and family values.

Your original reflection was that such extreme poverty would somehow disallow such a human being to access forms of learning and growth. My response to you is that, in your eyes, perhaps that is true, for you are observing their lives from your own personal values and concepts of reality. The perspective I have granted you is that such human beings, despite their challenging conditions, have found it within themselves to identify simple values in community, connectivity and family relationships. These simple values, while perhaps not all that fulfilling for some, actually provide a sense and measure of fulfilment and purpose to these beings. Their extreme poverty does not exclude them from their own ability and capacity as sentient beings to discover and learn purpose, value and joy in other avenues of life. These beings were born into poverty, and thus this is all they have known. Growth then takes place from their capacity to identify value and purpose despite such conditions, and they learn a great deal from the basic communities they are held together in.

It is not for you as an individual who approaches me for my perspective to then take my responses personally in a defensive or offended fashion. For this will not serve you. It is for you to identify with the understanding I relay to you in a way which does not decease your own sense of value, but increases it by widening your perspective of what else there is to see and observe. I relay what is perceivable to me and to the Asceleottyi in terms of human beings as a whole, or as specific cultural communities or species. It is in this way of benefit to you, as an individual of such communities or species, to understand how other beings of the spirit world, or of other physical worlds see and perceive you from an exterior perspective.


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Old 24-01-2014, 04:42 PM
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Aww pagandelle,
I'm sure sparrows comments weren't meant in the way you have interpreted them....but i do understand where you are coming from, with extreme starvation, and that of babies and young children.....it is amazing that those poor women could conceive let alone give birth in their fragile condition....so I know what you mean......

Hi Dragonfly.
Thanks for feed back much apriesiated.
Love and light ..........
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Old 28-01-2014, 08:40 PM
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Dear Sparrow,

I'm still reading all your posts and have not quite reached half way as yet so forgive me please if what I'm asking has already been asked. I'm trying to absorb much of the information so taking it slowly.

I've heard about the concept of parallel lives and probable realities for example that for every choice I have, another 'me' will live out the choices I didn't take. If this is true what happens to the other 'me's' after their death? Are we still one soul? Or does each 'me' continue on their own path? And given how many choices we make in a day, that's a lot of 'me's' out there ... its mind boggling, or have I got that completely wrong?

And then there's the question of time and reincarnation. Its said that time is an illusion perculiar to earth. That all, past present and future are happening now, so when we incarnate can we choose in which period of time to incarnate in? Is it like looking into the Akahsic records and experiencing a particular life already lived? And would that kind of tie in with the first question, where we can change an outcome from a past life through different choices?

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