Purgatory

Where is purgatory? The Catholics use this term to represent a place where the souls are cleansed prior to reaching the Kingdom of Heaven. As I see it, the location is outside the gates of hell at the center of this Earth. Hell is where the souls are destroyed and turned into chaos. At that state they are merely collective bacteria.
On the outskirts of hell, we awaken from death as a total entity, our approximately eternal soul. Some souls were born upon this Earth some elsewhere. Some will live and some will die. For those who like more complex souls, our soul here is only a small part of a more complex soul. Yet as far as we are concerned our soul here is what will live or die.
In death we have contributed our life to our soul's total life. We exist within the spiritual mind of our soul. Our souls do not really belong to us, they belong to the lower part of God's mind. This is at a very high light speed photonic energy.
In purgatory, we will be recreated apart from our soul. We will stand in judgement before our total soul. Our soul has been purified many times in the past and is sadder and wiser from the experience. If we have added to the total karma of our soul then at a minimum we have improved our soul. If not we have decreased the total karma of our soul.
The cleansing process involves the memory of all the salient points of our lives. If we harmed another, we will feel their pain. If we did great harm to another such as murder, we will feel the pain of the victim and all the victims relatives. For the most part it is mental pain but for some the feelings of physical pain will be sent into them.
Even the pain we inflicted upon the animal world will be felt by us. Since animals tend to have collective souls, the killing of a chicken for food does not cause us pain in return. The wanton destruction of a species will be felt by us. If we set a forest fire on purpose we will feel the pain of the trees and all the animals we destroyed wantonly.
If the cleansing process works, we will move on to the Kingdom of Heaven. This is a temporary rest stop before the next life. The Kingdom of Heaven lies upon the Dual Doppler Earth on the opposite side of the sun. This is a physical Einsteinian energy field caused by the repetitive motion of the Earth around the sun. You cannot see it in a space ship but you will be able to feel the photonic field. Associated with this physical field is the spiritual field in which the souls of people exist.
From there you will be transmitted digitally back to this Earth or other Earths. In death we are merely digital type data when we are transmitted from one location to the next. The energy field of our souls is everywhere and the digital data will recreate our soul anywhere and everywhere.

[desert rat]

Puragatory , heaven , hell , ect. there part of the astral plane , not created by God by thoes that believe in them .

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by desert rat

Puragatory, heaven, hell, ect. They're part of the astral plane,
not created by God by those that believe in them .

Could you explain..."not created by God..."
That is probably a new concept for many.
Thanks, desert rat

Originally Posted by desert rat

Puragatory , heaven , hell , ect. there part of the astral plane , not created by God by thoes that believe in them .

In your belief system, each man is his own God. That makes billions of Gods and no one in control of the universe. Pure spiritual chaos. That is not part of my belief system. However all of us have the freedom to believe what we chose to believe. In the end, we will find out who is correct.

[desert rat]

We all create our own reality , even in the astral plane . When we pass on we either reincarnate in to a new human life , stay earth bound as a ghost , or stay on the astral plane . Thoes that go to the astral join others of the same belief system . The different ares of the astral planes were created by thoes of the different belief systems . Lets say one believed in a heaven with St. Peter at the front gates and streets of gold , that whats they created , and thoes that also saw heaven that way joined them . Thoes that believed in the happy hunting ground of the North American Indains would meet up there . On God , I see God as a creative life force of the cosmos , we are a part of that energy/ consciouness .

[Amilius777]

I got exactly what you meant desert rat.

heaven, purgatory, and hell are three different states in the after-life.

I prefer to see it as heavenly levels, purgatory levels, and hellish levels of the Astral plane.

They are all different and different for the individual and soul-group depending on their own awareness and belief systems.

The only thing God created, or brought out of Self, is the state of oneness with God, the ultimate level of heaven, but even in that oneness; the evolution and ascension goes on forever.

[astralsuzy]

Originally Posted by desert rat

We all create our own reality , even in the astral plane . When we pass on we either reincarnate in to a new human life , stay earth bound as a ghost , or stay on the astral plane . Thoes that go to the astral join others of the same belief system . The different ares of the astral planes were created by thoes of the different belief systems . Lets say one believed in a heaven with St. Peter at the front gates and streets of gold , that whats they created , and thoes that also saw heaven that way joined them . Thoes that believed in the happy hunting ground of the North American Indains would meet up there . On God , I see God as a creative life force of the cosmos , we are a part of that energy/ consciouness .

Does that mean murderers and horrible people who believe that they will go to a beautiful place, will go to a beautiful place because they believe it?

[LadyMay]

I used to use the word purgatory over hell when referring to the lower astral, though people still got confused. But purgatory from what I know is about being 'purged' from all your wrong deeds before you can get into heaven, hell is eternal. In the lower astral you are purged in a similar sense, though it's not a punishment so much as a free-will.

[desert rat]

Originally Posted by astralsuzy

Does that mean murderers and horrible people who believe that they will go to a beautiful place, will go to a beautiful place because they believe it?

I also believe in karma , some how deep down meen nasty people know they need to pay for there acctions . They will reincarnate into a meen nasty life, or some thing like that .

[Tristran]

Originally Posted by desert rat

I also believe in karma , some how deep down mean nasty people know they need to pay for there actions . They will reincarnate into a mean nasty life, or some thing like that .

So if a arms dealers, terrorist, warmonger politician, mad scientist making WMDs, mercenary die then it is perfect justice for them to be born in a war zone and then get their limbs blown off by their companies own weapons.

Hmmmm, awesome.

Well as it says in the Bible 'Those who live by the sword, die by the sword'. Then they enter hell with blood on their hands.

i wonder if the filthy white rich always get born as blacks in a poor African war torn country ?