Soul Retrieval during AP?

[Sojourner2013]

Originally Posted by ribiq

You can use a lucid dream to get to the astral, but using a lucid dream alone I think would make it a bit too difficult to do that and have it be effective.

Hi Ribiq, yes this is the dilemma that I'm seeking clarification on. I am capable of lucid dreaming, but I have not AP'd. When I was 5-6ish, I used to do it frequently, but not since then. Hence, my curiosity about which realm that the soul retrieval takes place. Thanks for your input.

[Sojourner2013]

Originally Posted by wstein

Soul retrieval is usually done via 'Journeying' which is an OBE technique more similar to Phasing than Astral Travel.

Soul fragments can get lost/trapped in any plane including the Astral ones. The person doing the retrieval has to go wherever the lost fragments are (sometimes they are still on Earth).

In my view lucid dreaming is of no help to Soul Retrieval unless Astral Travel through Lucid Dreaming is the only way you know how to get off the Earth plane.

Hi Wstein, aaah, thank you, that clarification helps, when you say the lost fragments cn be on various planes! I did not know that. Also, I'm not familiar with Phasing, but I will research that, as well. Thanks for your input!

[Sojourner2013]

Originally Posted by CrystalSong

HOWEVER Intension IS Everything! So I've no doubt if you Intend to astral travel to recover a soul fragment you can do it.

Hi CrystalSong, Yes, I totally agree! I recently read a book called "Horse Boy" and there was a shamanic ceremony in which some soul retrieval was done for an autistic boy. The results were phenomenal and the effects immediate. One of the shamans said that he had to retrieve a part of the soul from an aunt from a previous life that did not want to let him go. So very interesting. Hence, I'm researching soul retrieval through AP, if possible. Thanks for your input!

[Sojourner2013]

Originally Posted by Tobi

That may mean different things to some people, but to my viewpoint it seems that "Non-Ordinary-Reality" is another dimension....hence the Astral? Or levels which are not exclusively "astral", but beyond the physical?

Hi Tobi, yes, I understand your clarification. In lucid dreaming, we can do/go/see things with an intention. So, my concern was that in lucid dreaming, I can intend to find a soul part (not mine), but is that soul part capable of rejoining the soul of origin through my lucid dream (the soul part would be my son's, who is autistic).

[Azmond]

If you would be searching for a lost part of someone else soul, I reckon, AP would be more effective. Plane of lucid dreams is still of your own subconscious making, though it might inhabit higher dimensions. Searching for someone else in your own reality might not be effective for that reason. I am not experienced, but i believe it is possible to go into others people dreams while lucid dreaming? Your sons dreams might be a better place to look for lost fragments of his soul, and there would certainly be a benefit of already being in a reality of his souls making. If that is not a possibility, you can reach AP through lucid dreaming ,and that would work the same as having an AP right away, more or less. This is more speculation then fact, because I do not have enough experiences on that matter.

[dryad]

Create a space within yourself for the fragment to travel in. Link that space to your sons soul. You need his soul level energy for that not aura energy. Use that energy to find the fragment you seek and bring it back. Then release the space and send the fragment and linking energy back to him.