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Old 25-04-2012, 12:50 AM
Rumar
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Afterlife Wars

Anyone ever astral project or Lucid Dream (same thing but LD is while unconscious and most of the time you lack absolute control) and find themselves in a huge battlefield? I've come across so many throughout my journey that it's uncanny.

Explosions, death (yes, spirits can be wiped out of existence), blood, guts, destruction everywhere. It's disappointing to know that there are many battles out there even after people have died. So much has changed since the introduction of the 'big banishment' that mankind just cripples over itself even after death. Especially glimpses of horrid destruction to come also plagues a friend of mine, even while he drives, it's pretty gruesome from what I've heard. He pretty much has come to grips with it, but that's another story. Anyone here experience this? I've been involved several dozen times, it's pretty much hardened my heart from what I had to do to help those suffering (it's pretty obvious from atmosphere and personal energy in who to help).
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Old 25-04-2012, 11:26 PM
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No... I have not experienced it.. But it sounds like the lower levels described in spiritual books I've been reading. They stay there at that level until they desire something better... then they are ready to be helped. Once they attain the desire to move upward, they are allowed to and are helped, but only by one level. In order to attain an even higher level, they must share their desire and what they have learned with others still in that lower level, but only after being trained. No one can be helped until they are ready.

Much like life on the planet.
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Old 29-04-2012, 07:14 PM
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Anyone ever astral project or Lucid Dream (same thing but LD is while unconscious and most of the time you lack absolute control) and find themselves in a huge battlefield? I've come across so many throughout my journey that it's uncanny.

Explosions, death (yes, spirits can be wiped out of existence), blood, guts, destruction everywhere. It's disappointing to know that there are many battles out there even after people have died. So much has changed since the introduction of the 'big banishment' that mankind just cripples over itself even after death. Especially glimpses of horrid destruction to come also plagues a friend of mine, even while he drives, it's pretty gruesome from what I've heard. He pretty much has come to grips with it, but that's another story. Anyone here experience this? I've been involved several dozen times, it's pretty much hardened my heart from what I had to do to help those suffering (it's pretty obvious from atmosphere and personal energy in who to help).

Hi Rumar! I haven't experienced this either, but I just want to clarify the difference between lucid dreams and astral travel/projection.

Astral Travel:
You actually leave your physical body and your essence enters the astral realm. There is it possible for you to experience anything, and to witness real world events that are happening in other places. Anything is possible and you can bring back reliable information.

Lucid Dreaming:
In this case, you do not truly leave your body. You simply are dreaming and you are fully aware of that fact. The information you get in this state of dreaming is not very reliable because most of what you see is not really happening.

That being said, if you did see war in the real astral realm, than it was most likely on one of the lower planes or levels. It would be wise for you to pray, as protection, before going to that area of the astral plane again.

What I do want to make very clear though is that no one can ever be wiped out of existence. It simply is impossible. We are part of God/the Source. We are God.

In the actual afterlife, there is no war, no evil, and no destruction. That nonsense simply doesn't exist there. Feel free to visit my website (see signature or profile) for more information.

I hope this helps!
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Old 30-04-2012, 08:10 AM
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Anyone ever astral project or Lucid Dream (same thing but LD is while unconscious and most of the time you lack absolute control) and find themselves in a huge battlefield? I've come across so many throughout my journey that it's uncanny.

Explosions, death (yes, spirits can be wiped out of existence), blood, guts, destruction everywhere. It's disappointing to know that there are many battles out there even after people have died. So much has changed since the introduction of the 'big banishment' that mankind just cripples over itself even after death. Especially glimpses of horrid destruction to come also plagues a friend of mine, even while he drives, it's pretty gruesome from what I've heard. He pretty much has come to grips with it, but that's another story. Anyone here experience this? I've been involved several dozen times, it's pretty much hardened my heart from what I had to do to help those suffering (it's pretty obvious from atmosphere and personal energy in who to help).

It is sometimes termed as a 'war in heaven' and quite a few cultures reflect this, notably the Greeks. The line between life and death isn't all it's cracked up to be, neither is heaven. If the afterlife is so full of sunshine and roses, why do people on here talk of evil Spirits and the like? It's not as uncommon as many would like to believe it is.
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