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13-05-2015, 12:10 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Is Hell Real?
Hello SF
For some reason, I've been getting curious and interested in the thought of hell. I'm interested in the fact that I keep wondering of its existence. And if it does indeed exist, I wonder are we really condemned to be there for all eternity? What happens once we are plunged into this pit of extremely low vibrational entities?
To fuel this curiousity, I've been doing some google searches for real experiences through NDE of what hell is like. Needless to say that just about everyone has said that it is eternal and judging by the criteria of sinners that are qualified to go to hell, about just about everyone will suffer hell.
But how can we reincarnate if we're there for all eternity paying for our sins?
So what do you think? Is hell real or not? I would appreciate it if someone who is a medium or has contacted a lost loved one about this matter.
:)
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13-05-2015, 01:24 AM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2013
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I absolutely do not believe in a hell outside of the hell I can turn my life into through bad decision making and of that hell there seems to be an endless variety of it possible for each of us.
You said "How can we re-incarnate if we're there for eternity paying for our sins?"
There you go, don't believe in things that defy logic.
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13-05-2015, 01:36 AM
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Master
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Phoenix AZ USA
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We have discussed hell a few times , you can find old posts with a search . There is no hell in the Christain scence , one created by God as punishment . There are different hells created by thoes that beleve in hell and know they belong there , on the astral plane . Heaven , and other places from differnent belief systems .
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13-05-2015, 11:07 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2014
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there is no hell. there is no re-incarnation. there is incarnation. a whole different story.
kk
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michigan
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13-05-2015, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2015
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Hell seems to exist on earth.
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13-05-2015, 05:41 PM
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Ascender
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Howla Dark
Hell seems to exist on earth.
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And there are those who believe Earth is hell itself.
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13-05-2015, 05:44 PM
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Newbie ;)
Join Date: Dec 2010
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heaven and hell are man made ideas
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13-05-2015, 06:26 PM
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Ascender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyblue
heaven and hell are man made ideas
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I personally think heaven exists as we need a 'sanctuary' to return too once we find peace in our deaths. But hell is a bit sketchy. Most people use the evidence of the bible to support the existence of hell and some of these people have had the chance to have visions of being sent to hell.
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13-05-2015, 08:30 PM
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The spirit world is our natural home. Life on earth is temporary and just an opportunity for us to learn, enjoy ourselves while we are not in the presence of divine beings. Who knows what humans can achieve if they progress well. But yeah the spirit world is our natural home when we are spirit. And in essence that is what we are.
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13-05-2015, 11:29 PM
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I would encourage you to think in terms of 'hellish' states of consciousness and there being 'regions' of the spiritual dimension(s) where individuals will collectively create these environments due to the state or condition of their soul... No one is 'stuck' anywhere... And you don't get sent anywhere due to failing to claim certain beliefs or adherence to any particular religion.
The commonly accepted concept of 'hell' has been utilized as a scarecrow and for purposes of psychological maniplation...
Classic scholars know that the heathen hell was early copied by the Catholic church, and that almost its entire details afterwards entered into the creeds of Catholic and Protestant churches up to a century ago. Any reader may see this who will consult Pagan literature and writers on the opinions of the ancients. And not only this, but the heathen writers declare that the doctrine was invented to awe and control the multitude. Polybius writes: "Since the multitude is ever fickle there is no other way to keep them in order but by fear of the invisible world; on which account our ancestors seem to me to have acted judiciously, when they contrived to bring into the popular belief these notions of the gods and of the infernal regions." Seneca says: "Those things which make the infernal regions terrible, the darkness, the prison, the river of flaming fire, the judgment seat, etc., are all a fable." Livy declares that Numa invented the doctrine, "a most efficacious means of governing an ignorant and barbarous populace." Strabo writes: "The multitude are restrained from vice by the punishments the gods are said to inflict upon offenders, for it is impossible to govern the crowd of women and all the common rabble by philosophical reasoning: these things the legislators used as scarecrows to terrify the childish multitude." ~ J.W. Hanson
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