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Old 26-11-2011, 05:49 PM
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Xan, I agree.
However, there comes a time when the merge is permanent and that is what I meant.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe that once merged we will be aware of the people who knew us but they will not be aware of us. They feel the loss.

The merging of our awareness with the oneness is gradual, and yes, there comes a time when we no longer fluctuate.

In my experience there are some who can't see us like that, and others who see and feel us more deeply yet.


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Old 26-11-2011, 05:58 PM
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See Mellen-Thomas Benedict's NDE

His link for everyone:

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation04.html
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Old 26-11-2011, 06:24 PM
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I you could merge permanently with God/All That Is/Creator tomorrow, would you do so?

This is under the pretense that the all that is, is separate from us. Since we are never away from the all that is there is never a time that we need to merge in it.
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Old 26-11-2011, 07:23 PM
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No, I wouldn't. Not that I wouldn't like to, but I just feel like I have stuff to finish before any of that. I'd rather live with my own individuality for awhile.
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Old 26-11-2011, 07:35 PM
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This is under the pretense that the all that is, is separate from us. Since we are never away from the all that is there is never a time that we need to merge in it.

I believe that there will come that time when we will merge with All That Is but that is because I am inclined towards Theosophy which says that this objective universe, God manifested, will eventually "sleep for seven eternities" before it wakes again.
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Old 26-11-2011, 07:37 PM
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The merging of our awareness with the oneness is gradual, and yes, there comes a time when we no longer fluctuate.

In my experience there are some who can't see us like that, and others who see and feel us more deeply yet.


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I agree but right now the majority would not see/feel/hear/sense "us like that."
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Old 26-11-2011, 07:44 PM
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Or what is stopping them...

thinking of Wayne Dyer's question --- what is it that stops us. All of us.
Not picking on you guys!!

In my opinion, but that is only my own opinion, what stops us is imperfection.
As in the quote from Life as Carola (#49): we have to climb all the rungs. Also, and this may sound odd, I think that All That Is is also evolving and it can do so only through all consciousnesses.

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Old 26-11-2011, 07:58 PM
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This is under the pretense that the all that is, is separate from us. Since we are never away from the all that is there is never a time that we need to merge in it.

Yes.. it is always here within around and as us.
Yet as humans we have fallen into forgetfulness of it.
'Merging' means becoming aware in it again
and surrendering all parts of us that believe the separation into It.

The idea there's no change in awakening is false.


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Old 26-11-2011, 08:00 PM
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I agree but right now the majority would not see/feel/hear/sense "us like that."

Yes, although the question was not about the majority but about loved ones. In my experience who those are may change, but the love is deeper and purer than ever.


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Old 26-11-2011, 10:40 PM
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How does the thought of returning to the source of All -- from that place or state which we originate -- have anything to do with the idea of achieving or of having achieved something? Seems like a very simple and straight-forward question to me.

It is simply because the question perpetuates the idea of an achiever. The idea that there is a you to awaken, you to return.
You don't return anywhere. You simply drops away.
That is what I meant.............
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