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04-02-2015, 09:09 PM
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people who suffer this life time around.
I have a question. I have had a terrible life this time around. I always wanted to know why would heavenly father put me on this earth to suffer so much pain. Being abused, raped, being talked down too, people stealing and lying to me, and the most painful thing is being judged all my life. I spoke with a psychic and she told me that WE are the ones that choose to come down here and suffer in pain. She said that when we do bad things in our past lives, that we feel as though we have to be reincarnated and pay for the bad things we have done in our past lives. So I wanted to know if this is true. Do some of us really have to suffer and be punished for what we did in our past lives?
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05-02-2015, 08:42 AM
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How would anyone know if it's true? It's simply a belief.
Take it on board if you think it'll improve your life.
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05-02-2015, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Squatchit
How would anyone know if it's true? It's simply a belief.
Take it on board if you think it'll improve your life.
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I have no idea what your talking about, but thanks anyways. I'm just trying to learn like everyone else. People seem to think I feel sorry for my self and that's not true. I'm proud of myself for making it this far. Take care:):)
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05-02-2015, 11:04 AM
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I don't believe in karma but I do think we decide to experience these things for our soul growth.
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05-02-2015, 11:28 AM
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I don't believe we are punished by anyone or thing but ourselves. I don't mean we attract those events to ourselves, but we may inadvertently punish ourselves further by blaming ourselves and/or adding layers of difficult emotions to what already happened. I don't know if karma exists but if it does I'm inclined to believe we actively take part in choosing particular lessons that may have come about through experiences in past lives, but it is up to us whether we decide to take those lessons. We have free will which we can exercise at anytime. Karma is a common belief that serves to create an explanation for our lot in life which is comforting for many people, but i think the meaning may be largely down to us. It is hard to see suffering as simply the result of people's unconsciousness.
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05-02-2015, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Starbuck
I don't believe we are punished by anyone or thing but ourselves. I don't mean we attract those events to ourselves, but we may inadvertently punish ourselves further by blaming ourselves and/or adding layers of difficult emotions to what already happened. I don't know if karma exists but if it does I'm inclined to believe we actively take part in choosing particular lessons that may have come about through experiences in past lives, but it is up to us whether we decide to take those lessons. We have free will which we can exercise at anytime. Karma is a common belief that serves to create an explanation for our lot in life which is comforting for many people, but i think the meaning may be largely down to us. It is hard to see suffering as simply the result of people's unconsciousness.
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I understand where your coming from. I certainly would never ask for the beatings and all the other bad things that happened to me, nor do I feel sorry for myself. But I definitely would never blame myself for what happen to me. I am very proud of myself for making it in this world. Heavenly Father is always looking out for me:):):):)
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06-02-2015, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Starbuck
I don't believe we are punished by anyone or thing but ourselves. I don't mean we attract those events to ourselves, but we may inadvertently punish ourselves further by blaming ourselves and/or adding layers of difficult emotions to what already happened. I don't know if karma exists but if it does I'm inclined to believe we actively take part in choosing particular lessons that may have come about through experiences in past lives, but it is up to us whether we decide to take those lessons. We have free will which we can exercise at anytime. Karma is a common belief that serves to create an explanation for our lot in life which is comforting for many people, but i think the meaning may be largely down to us. It is hard to see suffering as simply the result of people's unconsciousness.
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I agree with this.
Evey
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05-02-2015, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by angelabaker
I have a question. I have had a terrible life this time around. I always wanted to know why would heavenly father put me on this earth to suffer so much pain. Being abused, raped, being talked down too, people stealing and lying to me, and the most painful thing is being judged all my life. I spoke with a psychic and she told me that WE are the ones that choose to come down here and suffer in pain. She said that when we do bad things in our past lives, that we feel as though we have to be reincarnated and pay for the bad things we have done in our past lives. So I wanted to know if this is true. Do some of us really have to suffer and be punished for what we did in our past lives?
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NO let me say it again NO again NO you do not need to suffer or be punished.
that is one of the reason i started to understand incarnation instead of reincarnation. what good is getting the alleged karma if you cannot make the connection. when i have a new puppy and he makes a mess in the house. i take him over to the mess and rub his nose in it. then. i give him a little smack and put him outside. plus when i take him out later and he does his business he gets praise.
so what good is getting the pain of the alleged karma if you cannot make the connection. the understanding is not there. incarnation makes more sense.
the pain may still be there but the understanding is there to turn it into reason to improve.
kk
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05-02-2015, 03:19 PM
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Master
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Location: Phoenix AZ USA
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You need to find out why this is happining . Is this a karmic pay back , from past life pain , or beliefs in your past lives , ect. To quote Dic k Sutphen " wisdom erasses karma".
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05-02-2015, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by desert rat
You need to find out why this is happining . Is this a karmic pay back , from past life pain , or beliefs in your past lives , ect. To quote Dic k Sutphen " wisdom erasses karma".
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You are right. I want to find out about my past lives,cause then I can have a better understanding:):):)
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