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Old 19-01-2016, 11:06 PM
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Chickens incarnate. It's about where things need to go. When a being is developed it draws in a soul. What is needed is what is needed. Choice though is the matter of the question. Choice exists but I see the point. Yes, it is unfortunate. I want to consider my actions more deeply now. Thank you.
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Old 20-01-2016, 12:18 AM
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Burntfruit,

Interesting question. I think something you could ask yourself is, "Why do humans keep incarnating?" Isn't the life of a human also filled with similar hardship and suffering? Many people have worse lives than chickens, by far. On the other hand, many people have better lives than chickens. There is no simple answer to this question. I believe that we all have a lesson to learn. If you believe in karma, you may see the suffering of a chicken as penance for the suffering that soul caused in another life. It all depends on how you look at it. Thanks for sharing.

-Phoenix

I do not know all there is to know, but don't instinctively feel that the sufferings a Being experiences in physical manifestation, is always necessarily to do with a form of 'penance' for what was done, or not done in another life.....

Sometimes a Being's suffering can inspire others to behave differently. Can expand their consciousness.
Sometimes (particularly with Humans) it is only at the point of surrendering the Ego, that some clearer vision of the Soul can take place. Pain, difficulty and hardship can negate or transcend the Ego at least temporarily.

Sometimes I honestly wonder if some animals are forerunners...or a part of an incoming 'swarm' dedicated to the awakening of consciousness in others. Remember Spirit does not make such 'species barriers' as we do here.
In Spirit of course, they are fully sentient and intelligent Souls. Not merely "dumb animals" (or birds)
If that is the case, then we should be truly moved by them, and respond accordingly with love, honour and compassion. That is a truly loving thing they do.
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Old 14-03-2016, 08:11 AM
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Animals don't have souls.
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Old 14-03-2016, 10:20 AM
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Animals don't have souls.

That is such a cold hearted thing to say.
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Old 14-03-2016, 11:27 AM
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Animals don't have souls.

It's the same Spirit of God that created, animates and sustains both human and animal life.

Animals have souls, as we do, and are on their own evolutionary path.

St Francis of Assisi reminded us of our Sacred Duty: "Not to hurt our humble brethren (animals) is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission - to be of Service to them wherever they require it"
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Old 14-03-2016, 03:21 PM
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All living being arise from spirit. It is the way of nature.
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Old 15-03-2016, 08:39 PM
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That is such a cold hearted thing to say.

I don't see how speaking truth is 'cold hearted'. I just feel the question comes from an assumption that isn't based in fact. If you feel that I condone animal cruelty then you are mistaken as I never said any such thing. Perhaps it may be wiser to ask questions than to make assumptions based on no fact or evidence. If I said "yeah, kill chickens!" then perhaps I could see where you would feel that is cold hearted.

I'm a newbie here. Is it common practice to be judged here if people don't like what you're saying?
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Old 19-03-2016, 07:33 PM
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"God" reading comments about "God" arguing with "God" about the reasons why it decided to come to Earth as a chicken. And every part of "God" says they're "right". Marvellous! xD
And through you im trying to understand myself
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Old 19-03-2016, 07:42 PM
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Burntfruit i love your post btw!
Love the curious questions!
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Old 24-03-2016, 05:49 PM
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I don't see how speaking truth is 'cold hearted'. I just feel the question comes from an assumption that isn't based in fact. If you feel that I condone animal cruelty then you are mistaken as I never said any such thing. Perhaps it may be wiser to ask questions than to make assumptions based on no fact or evidence. If I said "yeah, kill chickens!" then perhaps I could see where you would feel that is cold hearted.

I'm a newbie here. Is it common practice to be judged here if people don't like what you're saying?

The unimaginable didn't need human science to become a fact.
The unborn life doesn't need human science to come into reality.
The apple doesn't need human science to fall from the tree.
The earth doesn't need human science to spin around the sun.
The universe doesn't need human science to expand in every direction.

Why are you so focused on facts?
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