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Old 08-08-2018, 05:35 PM
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Loving others is not hard at all, just loving myself sometimes is. Same with forgiveness, tolerance, being non-judgemental...
Not at the moment, and for that I am grateful.
I have been going up and down for I do not know how long, though.
I can fall back into that old stupid thing at any time, and I do not want to.
I'd rather love myself, as I am, unconditionally so that I can truly love others, too.

EDIT: And yes, others have harmed me. It happened, and good. No need to hold a grudge against anybody.
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Old 08-08-2018, 05:48 PM
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Wanted to add the following edit:

EDIT: And yes, others have harmed me. It happened, and good. No need to hold a grudge against anybody.

Editing seems not to work atm, sorry.
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Old 09-08-2018, 04:28 AM
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Thank you all, again
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:01 AM
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Thank you all, again
So if you take on board what Natalie Sudman (I'm a fan too) says about planning what we would experience as Spirit, did/do you Love yourself enough to give yourself this experience?
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:39 PM
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So if you take on board what Natalie Sudman (I'm a fan too) says about planning what we would experience as Spirit, did/do you Love yourself enough to give yourself this experience?
It strikes me that such an idea might (implicitly?) belief-presume that everything that, or every aspect of what one, ex-peer-iences is (completely?) self-determined, that is 'determined' by one's personal self.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:15 PM
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So if you take on board what Natalie Sudman (I'm a fan too) says about planning what
we would experience as Spirit, did/do you Love yourself enough to give yourself this experience?
Oh, wow...what a great question to get people to ask themselves..brilliant of you, my friend!

I am shockingly aware of how much I am loved by my Creator...with all my warts, as they say.
This allows me to feel like a beloved princess of a King.
In the afterlife...I have made 'plans' , lol....for years!

The plan...Jesus or someone like him greets me with love that could melt
a rock in a snowstorm, buckling my knees ...figuratively....
I see some loving family....then, I say to him, "OK, can we go see our Dad now?"

I am in a place for years...of understanding completely what this means...'go boldly to the throne'.

I am and all of us are loved beyond imagination by God, this Magnificent Being...be a baby and let
yourselves be held and nursed by our Father/Mother God.
The entire Universe, invisible to these eyes is in an unending Divine Embrace...
join in, be part of it....and why wait till you're on the Other Side, I say!!!!
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Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:21 PM
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It strikes me that such an idea might (implicitly?) belief-presume that everything
that, or every aspect what one, ex-peer-iences is (completely?) self-determined, that is 'determined'
by one's personal self.
Well, yeah...
You're a smart guy...you must know you are creating everything in your little world, no?
Nothing happens to us...it is all by us.
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Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:47 PM
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Well, yeah...
You're a smart guy...you must know you are creating everything in your little world, no?
Nothing happens to us...it is all by us.

Miss Hepburn,

This I don't understand. In your previous post you were ebullent in your praise for God. In this posting you are seemingly ignoring the reality of grace. IMO grace does not originate with us, it is not by us that grace appears. Does your stance deny the existence of grace?.........:)
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Old 10-08-2018, 05:01 PM
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Well, yeah...
You're a smart guy...you must know you are creating everything in your little world, no?
Nothing happens to us...it is all by us.
Errr ... no.

In my 'view', what you say amounts to self-'Godification' (with a capital "G") - which, again in my 'view', is not born out by facts, each and everyone of us being, again in my view, jes being part of a 'greater' Living Being co-relating 'therein' with the beingnesses of a myriad others.

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The entire Universe, invisible to these eyes is in an unending Divine Embrace...
join in, be part of it....and why wait till you're on the Other Side, I say!!!!
And your (inner) answer to the "why wait" question is ...?
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Old 10-08-2018, 05:34 PM
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Oh, wow...what a great question to get people to ask themselves..brilliant of you, my friend!

I am shockingly aware of how much I am loved by my Creator...with all my warts, as they say.
This allows me to feel like a beloved princess of a King.
In the afterlife...I have made 'plans' , lol....for years!

The plan...Jesus or someone like him greets me with love that could melt
a rock in a snowstorm, buckling my knees ...figuratively....
I see some loving family....then, I say to him, "OK, can we go see our Dad now?"

I am in a place for years...of understanding completely what this means...'go boldly to the throne'.

I am and all of us are loved beyond imagination by God, this Magnificent Being...be a baby and let
yourselves be held and nursed by our Father/Mother God.
The entire Universe, invisible to these eyes is in an unending Divine Embrace...
join in, be part of it....and why wait till you're on the Other Side, I say!!!!
Hey there Miss H. :)
It's a good thing babies are cute, so our parents will put up with us, eh?
There is no ugly baby or small one in the eye of the loving beholder.
Evan as the toddlers pick up loaded guns and shoot and beat on one another, LOL...and abuse the stuff out of one another...and set the grounds on fire...

So I think this is a very reasonable analogy then

Peace & blessing
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