Are we really in hell…and how do we know we aren’t?

[Miss Hepburn]

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[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by dragoness_crysta

Miss Hepburn I am actually delighted that you choose to focus only on the pleasant things in this life...

Thank you m'dear...I had just reached a point, I guess!!
Got it out of my system.

You imagine your own Hell, wherever your soul is. I'ts up to you to pull yourself out of it.

(edited) way i see it we kinda are if we are then going through hell on earth as they say, sufferings, but there is this saying too that we don't get too much that we can't handle (but I don't know about that).

What I do know is that we are close to the low level realms, they're coming into this realm with surprising ease.

As far as religions and holy scripts goes I think one should take in consideration the possibility of manipulation from it's time's political, power views - they used to want to frighten people, If you do that you'll go to hell!!! I understand the threat if it is about killing someone etc.

I'm not against any religion but I do believe that the culture and the political views and the power games has been involved as well. today we hold the government, the political life and the religion separate (at least more so...) and one maybe then don't consider how it used to be, they used to be a very close collaboration, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours... I don't think religion escaped this. I think it has been colored by it's time, the history, the culture as well.

i've noticed i have to watch my tongue with some as when some has been born and raised in their "right" religion they sort of automatically see another religion as under, the wrong religion, the whole us and them, friends and foes, superior - inferior, rights and wrongs - sort of thing. i used to think this was strange when i was a kid, remember asking but if you both believe in god how come you don't agree, and just hug?

one time too as a kid we were about to do something and i asked why are we doing this? and a grown up answered "tradition" and I said "you don't know it either, do you?". important to think for yourself why we do things, and know the reason why we do them and see if it is something that resonates with you. i want my kiddo to learn about all religions, cultures, but what the child is to truly believe I will respect will be on its own journey and nobody, not even this mom, can tell the kid what to believe, it's personal, but still important to respect people, respect religions, mutual respect, both ways, respect searchers, respect atheists. somethings are done in the name of religion but it really isn't, it's just people wanting to read it in a way that fit their belief, needs, to justify.

[davids]

Originally Posted by ayar415 (Post #5)

What is the point to life? This is what I don't get.

Hi Ayar,

My view is that life [on this earth] is a school, i.e. a place where we learn and progress, reincarnation upon reincarnation, onward-and-onward toward "perfection."

Just my two-cents-worth,

David

P.S.

Originally Posted by AYAR415 (pOST #5)

Life is Hell and I want to burn in it until the last person is free.

A fine [and idealistic] sentiment, indeed, Ayar!

[Physx]

Originally Posted by lostsoul13

Are we really in hell - stuck with a single observer? And how do we not know we aren’t in hell?

Reincarnation is hard- it can be described as if we are in hell? Things like fire and metal all elements including electrical- have high threshold; how come we are fragile human beings have little or none threshold?

There are some who describe hell as you - being stuck in reincarnation. Repeatedly forgetting who we are. Suffering pain that isn't real, an illusion of disconnection, of loneliness, etc.

In the original scripture of Christianity, there was no "hell." They added hell in later as a scare tactic to encourage followers, or there were dire consequences. The original scriptures only described a "purgatory," which was a temporary place until you were ready for heaven.

I have at times wondered myself if this is hell. I have been through SO much pain in my lifetime. So many, many dreams ripped away from me. So many hopes crumbled. And every time things seem to finally be coming together for me, I get kicked back down. So yes, there are times I absolutely wonder if either this is hell, or at some point in this life, I died, and this continuation of it is me in hell. It would explain why somewhere in my mid 30s is when my life fell to pieces. I may have died, and this might be hell. I don't know any other plausible explanation - other than absolutely horrible luck and whatever "god" or higher beings there are, they hate me for some reason.