The 100 proofs of God.

[mickiel]

It is habitually said that God cannot be proven, something which I seriously disagree with. But people have said this so long, its dug into their unbelief system. But I often claim that God can be proven in a belief system; and I will list 100 proofs as a " Start;" because there are far more than 100. These are ways to prove God to yourself; in no certain order;

1. Consciousness. A stunning proof of God. No matter how life reproduces itself, only one kind can produce its kind! No Zebra can produce an elephant, and no ape can produce a human. Nothing unconscious can produce consciousness. Consciousness was produced by a consciousness. Intelligent thinking was began by intelligent thinking. Consciousness can only be traced by consciousness, consciousness can only be understood by consciousness, and consciousness can only be reproduced by consciousness; Thus consciousness in humans is a proof of a Conscious God.

The level of the power of consciousness reveals the orgin of consciousness to be on a far greater level, in order to produce consciousness. Meaning consciousness couldnot have began from things that are far " Less than it is itself." The orgin of consciousness must be greater than consciousness in order to produce it; which points directly to God.

2. Life. Life is proof of God, because life can only come from life; a simple fact which is undeniable. Life cannot be produced from absolute zero. In fact, nothing can be produced from absolute zero. There are no examples of life producing itself from nothing. Humanity woke up into conscious life years ago, and humans have been trying to figure out how and why ever since. The reason how and why has consistantly stared us in the face of our reason and points to God. And no matter how much we try to point to other things, it will always keep comming back to him.

[mickiel]

3. The Anthropic principles. There are thousands of varibles to this universe which would have made life impossible as we know it, if things were different, in some cases even slightly different. But because things have been alinged as they were, that is proof of God. Gravity couldnot have been stronger than electromagnetism, or stars would have been less massive and burn much faster. Because its roughly 1039 times weaker, they burn much slower. Protrons are larger than electrons, if they were not, we wouldnot exist. Protrons carry a positive electrical charge equal to that of negatively charged electrons, if they didnot balance each other out, we wouldnot exist.

This balance exist in the earths magnectic field, the earths place in the solar system, earths atmosphere, the color of the Sun, all these have a balance to them and the fact that so many variables would align so auspiciously in our favor is definte proof of God. The universe defintely appears to have been fine tuned for our existence.

[BlueSky]

Just who is it that you are trying to "prove" God to?

Blessings, James

[mickiel]

Originally Posted by WhiteShaman

Just who is it that you are trying to "prove" God to?

Blessings, James

Nobody. I am not trying to prove God to anyone.

4. The law of Entrophy. This law says all closed systems go from a state of high energy to low energy and from order to disorder. All closed systems, including our universe, disintergrate over time as they decay to a lower order of available energy and organization. Entrophy always increases and never decreases in a closed system. All scientific observations confirm everything continues to move towards a greater state of decay and disorder.

Because the available energy is being used up and there is no source of new energy, the universe couldnot have always existed; which is further evidence of creation; which is proof of God.

The 100 proofs of God is 100 people believing he exists... How could so many cultures all around the world who didn't know each other existed all believe in a higher diety belief that we are helped by spirits all cultures have flood myths etc..

I've considered a wide variety of theistic Apologetics, and pretty much heard it all, and nothing really comes close to proving that God exists. It's just a matter of belief and interpretation.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Originally Posted by mickiel

But I often claim that God can be proven in a belief system; and I will list 100 proofs as a " Start;"

A million proofs merely proves the belief or belief system exists, not the thing the belief is of.
The glitch of the internal matrix.

[mickiel]

Originally Posted by Alternate Carpark

A million proofs merely proves the belief or belief system exists, not the thing the belief is of.
The glitch of the internal matrix.

I disagree, proof is simply proof, unless it is not accepted by the individuals conscious awareness. I accept no. 5 as proof God exist, " Biogenesis." Living things only come from living things, life only comes from life. Every living organism alive today is a product of and evidence for Biogenesis, no scientist has ever documented a single case of non-living matter comming to life in self- replicating form; again, a stunning proof of God.

6. Paleontology is proof of God. Why do all fossils appear instantly in the fossil record? The Cambrian explosion is stunning proof of creation.

7. Irreducible Complexity is proof of God. Thousands of living organisms cannot be simplified or reduced from their complexity and survive. You cannot remove parts of the systems, and they couldnot survive if all systems werenot intact at their conception! Irreducible complex systems cannot be produced by gradual slight successive modifications from a less complicated pre-condition. An awesome proof of God!

[psychoslice]

There is what there IS, calling it God doesn't make it anymore than what it is already, it cannot be named, it can be experienced, but you cannot again name it by the experience, its all around you, its all within you, there is no place that it is not. So arguing that it is god and trying to prove it is God, is really silly, childish.

[mickiel]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

There is what there IS, calling it God doesn't make it anymore than what it is already, it cannot be named, it can be experienced, but you cannot again name it by the experience, its all around you, its all within you, there is no place that it is not. So arguing that it is god and trying to prove it is God, is really silly, childish.

Why are you reading silly childish things then? Do you now read without intrest? Or do you hide and mask your intrest? 8. Inborn human intrest is proof of God; its just in us to consider him. Over 90% of Americans have confessed intrest in God- where do such shocking numbers come from in our curiosity? A shocking number of Atheist are interested in this phenom. It proves one of two possible things: that large amounts of humans are foolish in their conjecture; or that large amounts of them are on to something!

And this God intrest has not died out, it has survived thousands of years of human history, it was here in our beginning, and its still here now. That intrest is " Inbred"- placed there; not by the humans themselves; its simply a natural part of us. It is natural to believe God exist; unbelief is unatural.