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Old 13-01-2023, 11:54 AM
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Karma and death

Would it be safe to say all karma (eating,cooking,drugs, person to person) is served when the person dies- a sort of end to end game thingy where by their obligations to karma is fulfilled by their death(fire or naturally?) there a hard working , patience is needed and threshold for all ways of dying…

Plus we say naturally is peaceful when in fact their soul could be breaking- it’s breaking a little bit…

I know I have karma from eating meat, while chickens, buds of drugs I dabbled for a while - even alcohol- the fruit of a tree etc

Just I don’t have the patience to die and don’t believe I should put all in that hard work when devoted to pain and suffering??? But on the other hand my karma would of been served so I do have patience for that chicken, that fruit of a tree etc
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Old 08-05-2023, 10:43 PM
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I did a search for ''Karma'' in the Title.
This youtube at 56:17 has a fabulous definition of Karma ...it is Bashar's take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lOHuqDbpoc&t=413s
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Old 09-05-2023, 03:18 AM
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I know I have karma from ...
You don't know that. You believe that.
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Old 09-05-2023, 06:51 AM
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I have to agree with Inavalan.
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Old 09-05-2023, 09:52 AM
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Why would you have karma from eating meat? that would suggest that people from generations ago are all serving karma.
It is not correct


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Old 09-05-2023, 10:33 AM
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You don't know that. You believe that.
Thank you! I didn't catch that! Yes!
Short version of link...He says karma is about balance ---say, if you had many lives doing bad things,
then you realize, "That was bad, I'm going to change. I'm going to stop it." No more karma.

He says, We do not have to exp something we did to another, ''Unless we chose to."
And naturally, he says karma is not punishment...all about balance.
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Old 09-05-2023, 12:31 PM
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I agree with NativeSpirit.
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Old 09-05-2023, 01:48 PM
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Karma just means action. The principle of karma is simply this - actions have consequences. Why do people make so much fuss about karma?
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Old 09-05-2023, 02:26 PM
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I have a friend who used to be vegan. He was deep into veganism and he wanted to "convert" me. We talked a lot about the benefits of both tendencies and he talked about Karma, souls, and the feelings of animals. I replied with the feelings of plants; we know that plants react to emotions, regardless if they are strong or soft, positive or negative.

I told him that this reaction told us that plants are sentient beings. They do not process or communicate the same way we do, but that does not mean that they can't. Scientists seek for life on other planets based on carbon like us, and they haven't found any. But that does not mean that it is not possible to have life-based on another element, it means that we do not know how it can be achieved.

So, I said that with that concept, plants hurt and suffer when they are processed for food, life is beautiful but it is both cruel and violent. You can't exist without causing harm. So like Native I think that it would mean that everyone has bad karma, like the "green mile": "everyone of us owe a life".

But I also like the idea of the Buddhists, when they ask for forgiveness for all the damage they do when they live one more day on this planet. (of course, it does not go like that, it's my perception) so I believe that when I pray I should ask for the souls of all creation. Planst and Animals as they are the most innocent victims of man's stupidity.

Also, I believe that the karma that I could have is resolved by these acts of prayer and avopiding violence
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Old 09-05-2023, 02:55 PM
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Karma just means action. The principle of karma is simply this - actions have consequences.
Oh, right....He said that, too....that is the real, orig meaning...that's all, yes. Thank you.

And I also agree with Native spirit.
Now, in the book that was highly recommended, channeled to Tony Stubbs,
"An Ascension Handbook" - SO much is explained about this whole creation! This is one great book.
I see I bought in 2014. :)

From memory he speaks about groups of souls that agree to being used as food.
I mean, don't we all have our place or jobs in the scheme of things?
It made sense to me when I read it. I may be able to find the quote.
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