Humility and self-love go hand in hand

[green1]

IMO, humility and self-love go hand in hand because they are possible at the same time:

1. Humility: I am unskillful and unworthy.
2. Self-love: This is normal because I am new.


Therefore, I am not hard on myself, on the contrary, I accept myself as I am.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

[Unseeking Seeker]

I’d look at it like this as a recognition rather than definition:

1. This mind-body apparatus has certain attributes, which shift over time. I am not the mind-body. Life is a lucid dream, felt by presence, through this decaying organic form.
2. I, that is the Self, living light, am an aspect of God, inseparable from Him. All is one. Bliss in duality and peace in singularity is the core essence of being.

[green1]

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker

1. This mind-body apparatus has certain attributes, which shift over time. I am not the mind-body. Life is a lucid dream, felt by presence, through this decaying organic form.
2. I, that is the Self, living light, am an aspect of God, inseparable from Him. All is one. Bliss in duality and peace in singularity is the core essence of being.

This makes sense US. Thanks.

[Gem]

Unworthiness is not a noble attribute.

[green1]

Originally Posted by Gem

Unworthiness is not a noble attribute.

What I think is unworthy, only my health is worthy.

This addresses your concern?

Thanks.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by green1

What I think is unworthy, only my health is worthy.

I went to fix a mower last week. I got it going, but I knew it wasn't good. The broken bit was a symptom of other things not being right. To me, the mower needed a rebuild, so I stripped the motor down and found all the little problems along the way. That's because I don't think a 'working mower' is up to scratch. It has to be a 'good mower', and I've got the time to waste on it.

It's a bit like being worthy because I can get it done with a 'working mower', but I love a 'good mower'. Same reason all my tools good quality. I love my tools. It's related to worthiness because worthiness is about being worthy of love. Being unworthy implies feeling unlovable. I've done that all my life and nothing good came out of it, but deep inside it's all pure love.

[green1]

Originally Posted by Gem

It's related to worthiness because worthiness is about being worthy of love. Being unworthy implies feeling unlovable. I've done that all my life and nothing good came out of it, but deep inside it's all pure love.

Let me kindly disagree with that. I am even more lovable when I am humble.

God itself is humble. This is why it said "I am a drop in the ocean". This is how it became the ocean. When we are small, living together becomes possible.

Originally Posted by green1

Therefore, I am not hard on myself, on the contrary, I accept myself as I am.

I don’t understand the ‘therefore’……what is the logical connection that leads from 1 to 2 ? To first speak of unworthiness and then love does not make sense. Because I am unworthy is the reason I can love myself ? Sounds like a new variation of conditional love. And, by the way, I do not share your definition of humility……you portray it as a negative trait and I see it as very positive.

[green1]

Originally Posted by Molearner

I don’t understand the ‘therefore’……what is the logical connection that leads from 1 to 2 ? To first speak of unworthiness and then love does not make sense. Because I am unworthy is the reason I can love myself ? Sounds like a new variation of conditional love. And, by the way, I do not share your definition of humility……you portray it as a negative trait and I see it as very positive.

Hi Molearner,

1 and 2 happen at the same time. Makes sense?

What is your definition of humility? Please share, I am curious and willing to learn.

Thanks.

[sky]

Originally Posted by green1

1. Humility: I am unskillful and unworthy.
2. Self-love: This is normal because I am new.


What has made you feel unskilfull and unworthy green ? Just curious.
Self love is very normal and necessary, how can you love your neighbour as yourself otherwise...