Death versus birth

#1 20-03-2012, 11:36 PM

The day of your death is more joyous than the day of your birth.

Who thinks this statement is true?

#2 21-03-2012, 02:28 AM

I think it has a grain of truth. But I think it mostly depends upon the worldview you have. The saying itself seems very Buddhist to me.

But I'll throw up these two stanzas from the Hávamál

70. It is better to live | than to lie a corpse,
The live man catches the cow;
I saw flames rise | for the rich man's pyre,
And before his door he lay dead.

71. The lame rides a horse, | the handless is herdsman,
The deaf in battle is bold;
The blind man is better | than one that is burned,
No good can come of a corpse.

psychoslice · #3 21-03-2012, 02:33 AM

What is even more joyous, is to realize that there is no death and there is no one born.

Emmalevine · #4 02-06-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by psychoslice

What is even more joyous, is to realize that there is no death and there is no one born.

Agreed

#5 21-03-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seekerscientist

The day of your death is more joyous than the day of your birth.

Who thinks this statement is true?

I do. On the day that we are born we are trapped in a tiny body. We cry at the immense discomfort, a soul once free from any binds and any limitations now trapped in 8 pounds of flesh. This body has so many needs, and we suffer only to fulfill those needs. Once this body dies, the soul is free again, borne into the same consciousness it has always had, except --- now it understands just how beautiful it is, now it understands freedom, now it understands perfection, now it understands what is IS, because it has experienced what it is NOT.

What bliss. :))

#6 28-03-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sybilline

I do. On the day that we are born we are trapped in a tiny body. We cry at the immense discomfort, a soul once free from any binds and any limitations now trapped in 8 pounds of flesh. This body has so many needs, and we suffer only to fulfill those needs. Once this body dies, the soul is free again, borne into the same consciousness it has always had, except --- now it understands just how beautiful it is, now it understands freedom, now it understands perfection, now it understands what is IS, because it has experienced what it is NOT.

What bliss. :))

beautifully said. Thank you!

alamode · #7 08-04-2012, 04:49 PM

In one of the books I was reading it revealed that there are cultures who actually feel this way. They celebrate death because now the person is returning Home to the spiritual world, away from the experiencing the pains and difficulties of living physically on Earth. In contrast, these cultures don't really celebrate birth because of this. I actually agree that this is the correct way of thinking though.

knightofalbion · #8 21-03-2012, 10:00 AM

Life is a continuum. So there isn't any 'death' as such.

Our consciousness & memory are cloaked down when we're born, but the exact opposite is true when we die, so we can savour the moment.
As for the 'death' being joyous, you'll meet all your loved ones again, including your pets, so yes.

But remember, life is a school! We're here to learn and advance the soul...So make the most of NOW!

knightofalbion · #9 21-03-2012, 10:02 AM

When I come to your world I am like a bird that is imprisoned within a cage, and when I leave it I am like a bird joyfully released to wing its way through boundless space. What you call death is the opening of the cage and the release of the bird from its prison - Silver Birch

theophilus · #10 21-03-2012, 04:13 PM

It would depend on how many times you have been born. If you have been reborn spiritually by repenting of your sins and putting your faith in Jesus Christ then your sins have all been forgiven and death means that you will leave this world and go to be with Christ. If you haven't experienced this second birth then death means that your will have to face God and be judged for your sins.