Is there any Evidence that Astral Projection isn't just Imaginary

I have been searching for some sort of evidence that astral projection is a real phenomenon rather than a vivid daydream, but I have found very little.

Is an astral traveler really going someplace else, or are they just going someplace else in their imagination? There is a difference between doing something and just imagining you're doing it...otherwise I would be able to do brain surgery by just imagining that I went through medical school.

I want to know if people who claim they can astral travel have *actually* traveled, not just imagined they've traveled.

Right off the bat, I'd just like to debunk the argument that "we don't have advanced enough technology to detect astral projection"...I've seen this argument a lot when other people tried to ask why there is no scientific validation of astral projection (not on this forum). You do not need super-advanced technology to provide evidence for astral projection. One man tried to do an experiment with it (beginning of this Youtube video -> /watch?v=Z2DWrTfEfo8), with NO super-futuristic technology, but he couldn't replicate it more than once just because the person he was studying left and refused to continue the study.

So, with the fact that we don't even need super-advanced technology to provide evidence of astral projection out of the way...why aren't there many studies providing support for astral projection being a real phenomena?

So, with the fact that we don't even need super-advanced technology to provide evidence of astral projection out of the way...why aren't there many studies providing support for astral projection being a real phenomena?

Dare I say it...I think a majority of individuals do not actually know how to personally tell the difference between a dream, ap and a simple out of body experience at all. It seems all three phenomena have somehow merged into being one and the same (and no I don't know how or when it happened) which makes validating anything difficult.

Also, the recall and skill involved with actual ap and various factors influencing it makes it a very temperamental subject to document and study with any consistency. A majority of the time even the chance of aping successfully depends on far more than simple intent alone, so unless somehow conditions can be replicated both around and within the ap subject and their target...it would be an inaccurate way of evaluating any of the data regarding any ap experiment.

So, due to that I'll put obe's and ap into the same category (which is travelling in spirit/etheric/energetic form outside of ones own physical body in both the physical world and 'elsewhere.')

But, fail methodologies and difficulty interpreting information correctly aside, the most evidence I've acquired is during experiments involving locating and moving physical objects in another persons presence, taking other people to the astral world with me and recounting identical experiences with no former contact after the event, leaving physical marks on people and objects and of course other people reporting having seen me on occasion without me telling them I'm 'visiting.'

Of course most of such experiments were not formal or recorded, so you only have my word and opinion to go by, which I don't expect you to consider much, if at all, because your looking for legitimate proof.

[Perfect Storm]

Only best way to find out is personal experience if you ask me :)

I agree with San OBE/AP is the same ting/

What is the imagination? In my opinion it is reality on another level of consciousness or plane of existence.. It's not something that doesn't exist per se, otherwise what are you observing when you "imagine"

Everything we create manifests from thought form, when constructing a building for example, we have the idea which we create in thought and imagination and build it, create it in our imagination, in thought - only after this process can we build it on this level of reality, in the third dimension.

So in answer to your question is astral projection real, or is it in our imagination - yes to both :) that's the paradox we live in

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by Eilam

I have been searching for some sort of evidence that astral projection is a real phenomenon rather than a vivid daydream, but I have found very little.

Is an astral traveler really going someplace else, or are they just going someplace else in their imagination? There is a difference between doing something and just imagining you're doing it...otherwise I would be able to do brain surgery by just imagining that I went through medical school.

I want to know if people who claim they can astral travel have *actually* traveled, not just imagined they've traveled.

Right off the bat, I'd just like to debunk the argument that "we don't have advanced enough technology to detect astral projection"...I've seen this argument a lot when other people tried to ask why there is no scientific validation of astral projection (not on this forum). You do not need super-advanced technology to provide evidence for astral projection. One man tried to do an experiment with it (beginning of this Youtube video -> /watch?v=Z2DWrTfEfo8), with NO super-futuristic technology, but he couldn't replicate it more than once just because the person he was studying left and refused to continue the study.

So, with the fact that we don't even need super-advanced technology to provide evidence of astral projection out of the way...why aren't there many studies providing support for astral projection being a real phenomena?

Because it's only going to be real for the person experiencing it. Technology can't prove or disprove it, other people can't prove or disprove it to one another. The only thing that can prove or disprove it is experiencing it yourself and performing your own tests and studies.

[amylou]

Astral projection is completely different than me closing my eyes and imagining a scenario in my head. That's how I know. I don't know if that can be proven by science or not, but I don't care because my experiences are only important to me. For me, each one feels different. I know the difference between a dream, vision, astral projection, day dream, lucid dream... They each feel different. I'll try to explain the differences that go on with me during each.

Imagination: I close my eyes and try to visualize something. I get a few pictures, but I really have to focus in on it. Usually, I can't see very complex things. I'm not great at imagining or visualizing anything. There's no emotion or feeling involved.

Day dream: More vivid than imagination. I start thinking about something and I see pictures of it playing out in my head. There is usually no emotional feeling involved unless it's something that I'm fearful of and then I might feel brief fear. As soon as I realize I'm daydreaming, I snap out of it and lose the visuals.

Vision: A random video starts playing in my head and it's something I don't recognize. I'm just an observer. I do notice colors. There is no emotion involved. Usually, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in the video and afterwards trying to make sense of it. Unlike a daydream, I'm aware of the video playing the whole time. I can't control it or stop it. I just watch til the end.

Dream: I can't feel body movements, objects, or anything like that. I can only feel on an emotional level. So if I'm having a dream about something scary, I will feel fear, but I won't feel the feeling of running away--my feet hitting the ground, air blowing past me..

Lucid dream: I'm in a dream and things are happening to me, but I'm not conscious of it being a dream. Then, somehow I realize, "Hey, I'm in a dream." Then I begin to try to change the dream. I can feel myself floating, running, picking up objects. In my opinion and in many other people's opinions a lucid dream is a type of projection. When I try to gain control of the dream, I usually fail. I don't usually notice colors in lucid dreams or in dreams.

Astral Projection: I feel myself waking up in the morning and my whole body is buzzing. Then, I float out and I am directly above my body. I see my room. I get transported by "astral wind" to somewhere in the astral or I stay in RTZ and explore my neighborhood. I can feel the sensation of floating, flying. I can even feel an uncomfortable scary feeling when I go too high too fast. I can see color vividly. If I touch an object, I can feel the texture. If I pet a cat, I feel it's soft fur. I can do flips and feel them. The whole time I have this really blissful feeling. It feels like I'm just so happy. There is no pain in my body.

One night I was laying in bed. I'm guessing a spider bit my toe, but my toe was throbbing. I was really sleepy but couldn't sleep because of the pain. After laying for a bit, I felt my body begin to vibrate and I floated out and instant relief from pain. It was great.

Usually my astral projections happen in the mornings but I've occasionally astral projected from meditation in the afternoon. So that's the best I can do to describe how completely different each of these feels.

[333xforever]

Here's a fact: Astral projection is real.

[Zyther]

You need to experience it is for real. You must let yourself believe that it is real and you will just know for sure it is real once you do it.

I thought I did this once and I was awake at the time, so I tried to float to a table and bring back a flashlight to the bed. I thought I succeed but when I came fully to, I didn't really have the flashlight, so I must have fallen asleep and into a dream for a short while.

[CrystalSong]

I'm with amylou on this one, I don't care if anyone can prove it or not scientifically.

I can't consciously astro-travel yet but can move my consciousness and etheric body to other places and travel at will. This is done on the 4th + dimensional level. We experience life day to day on the 3rd dimensional level. So until science can work out that other dimensions do exist, how to get to them and then navigate in them, they aren't going to be able to 'prove' to the majority of the population that such is possible.

In the meantime those of us who can will continue to travel the realms with or without anyone else approval, evidence or belief that we can.