The importance of keeping the commandments

[Nitiananda]

Among the main precepts in the spiritual practices are the Five Commandments and the Ten Commandments. The Ten Commandments are commandments for the attainment of Liberation and Enlightenment. The Five Commandments are the commandments for reincarnation in the World of Heaven.
The Five Commandments are basically related to actions, and in the Ten Commandments, three more commandments for speech and three for consciousness are added. Commandments relating to actions are related to the World of Phenomena, the commandments for speech are related to the Astral World, and the commandments for consciousness are to the Causal World. If due to the Five Commandments to exercise proper control of actions, conditions will be created for reincarnation in the future life in Heaven, relating to this World of Phenomena. Thanks to the Ten Commandments, the body, speech and thoughts will be cleansed, and the person who practices them will be able to attain Liberation.
• Important Ten Commandments
So, let's take the Ten Commandments and examine them one by one, comparing each with the corresponding evil deed

[Nitiananda]

Important Ten Commandments
So, let's take the Ten Commandments and examine them one by one, comparing each with the corresponding evil deed.
• Murder
What is murder?
The commandment "do not kill" includes killing and injuring living beings. And this is not limited to people only - you can not kill any living beings, even small insects. In addition, in recent years, abortion has become a common thing. No doubt abortion is murder, and killing a child with whom you have the deepest karmic connection becomes a very big bad karma ...
The work of the soul that underlies
Nowadays, there are many means for killing, and everyone commits murders as something self-evident, calling it "the extermination of harmful insects." From the point of view of people this is considered a good thing, but from the point of view of insects it is extremely unreasonable. Called by people "pests", insects were not born to be killed, life was given to them just like people. No one wants to be killed. Everyone wants to live a long time and does not want to die. We indifferently force others to experience suffering, which they themselves would not like to experience for anything.
For the murder there is such a pollution of the soul as indifference to other people's sufferings, when you make a distinction between yourself and others and cruelly treat the weak for your own benefit. When we kill sentient beings, our soul does not become warmer, it becomes cold.
The result is returned in the form of pain
Murder not only increases vicious feelings and makes the soul unstable, but also really returns to us in the form of pain. When we commit murder, then, naturally, we are hated, and the vibrations of the pain and suffering brought by others are absorbed by ourselves. And then come back in the form of pain. And the continuation of these sufferings will be the World of Hell. If we were driven by anger, it would be Hot Hell, if callousness is Cold Hell, and if we caused pain to the object - Hell of Pain. And the suffering and pain that we experience in Hell is nothing but the suffering and pain caused by ourselves.
When you kill or harm other beings, what kind of work does the soul experience in this?
Do you want to protect yourself? And maybe you do not care what happens to others because of your fault? Or do you want all living beings, all people, to become happy?
As in the proverb "the fisherman of the fisherman sees from afar", the soul of those who kill, or those who view other creatures as inanimate objects, attract people with the same qualities. Will this make them happy or unhappy?
Therefore, the command "not to kill" is not only intended to preserve the lives of beings around us. It exists also to make those who observe this commandment happy. This practice will also give you kindness - kindness, which brings other peace in the true sense.

[Nitiananda]

Adultery (unrighteous acts in passion)
The third commandment - "Do not commit adultery" - differs among laymen and monks.
First of all, the commandment associated with sexual desire, for the lay people: "do not have sex without love and not sleep with a stranger husband or wife."
Perhaps sex without love or sex, after which there are remorse, and brings pleasure, but in the shower at the same time there is no joy, it creates devastation. If you enter into sexual relations only for the sake of pleasure, then in such a relationship between a man and a woman, most likely, there will be bitterness.
On the other hand, when you are sleeping with a stranger or a wife, you inflict heavy damage on the work of the soul arising in conjugal relationships, attachment and the desire for one-person possession, so, naturally, these sufferings will return to you. If people who have married do not have sexual relations with anyone other than their husband or wife, they will not have to have remorse at heart, the soul will always be in a stable state and, naturally, the relationship between the spouses will be harmonious.
In modern people there is information that during stress, energy is better spent; they cherish the illusion that, freed from stress, they will gain a sense of relief, in reality, by spending sexual energy, they expend merit, deplete the physical body and weaken the will.
If in the World of Men to absorb sexual data and under the influence of these data enter into a relationship - if you strengthen this trend, then in the next life, coming out of the genitals, will reincarnate in the World of Animals. In the World of Animals, under the influence of energy changes during estrus, the animal does not care who to have sex with, this is a world where everyone is looking for males or females and mating.
If you want to achieve Liberation, then it is extremely important to preserve the integrity of sexual energy. The same applies to believing laymen who think about Liberation. Thanks to the practice of not adultery, you become energetic and able to lead an active life.
Perhaps we can say that the practice of monks who are not fixed on sexual desire, compared with the practice of the laity, is a life led by sages. Since if we do not waste energy in vain and if it really spreads throughout the body, we will find the highest bliss of the process "Joy - Pleasure - Silence - Lightness - Samadhi".

[virtue121]

"What is murder?
The commandment "do not kill" includes killing and injuring living beings. And this is not limited to people only - you can not kill any living beings, even small insects." Agreed

[Busby]

Originally Posted by virtue121

"What is murder?
The commandment "do not kill" includes killing and injuring living beings. And this is not limited to people only - you can not kill any living beings, even small insects." Agreed

What did Jesus give the people to eat at the feeding of the five thousand?

Fish of course. Or are fish not living beings?

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by Busby

What did Jesus give the people to eat at the feeding of the five thousand?

Fish of course. Or are fish not living beings?

That's a good point. There's really a lot of philosophical questions about that topic.

If killing is always wrong, why are so many living things designed to kill to live? Lions, wolves, eagles, whales, and on and on? Even some plants will kill other plants. I saw a show on how some species of ivy will cover a tree and kill it. Some poisonous plants kill animals. Then why is this whole system based on death? We are all killed by various diseases and the body wearing out. God will kill every living thing. No living thing on earth lives forever.

The creator or creators of all of this could have easily made a system of life and biology where nothing is killed or dies I would assume.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Rain95

That's a good point. There's really a lot of philosophical questions about that topic.

If killing is always wrong, why are so many living things designed to kill to live? Lions, wolves, eagles, whales, and on and on? Even some plants will kill other plants. I saw a show on how some species of ivy will cover a tree and kill it. Some poisonous plants kill animals. Then why is this whole system based on death? We are all killed by various diseases and the body wearing out. God will kill every living thing. No living thing on earth lives forever.

The creator or creators of all of this could have easily made a system of life and biology where nothing is killed or dies I would assume.

' The creator or creators of all of this could have easily made a system of life and biology where nothing is killed or dies I would assume '


Where would all the people live if nothing died?
Don't you think the creator/creators is ' Cause and effect ' ?

[Rain95]

Originally Posted by sky123

Where would all the people live if nothing died?

That begs the question, is there enough room in heaven/astral world for all the souls that exist? Are new souls still being created or is there a limited number? I know Buddhism doesn't believe in "souls" but whatever they call the thing in humans that goes on...

The population of the earth doubles every ten years. So now it is over 7 billion people. In 10 years, the earths population will be 14 billion. So let's assume 7 billion were reincarnated.... that means 7 billion new souls were created...or consciousnesses or life-streams or whatever one calls it. Seven BILLION! Where will they live? Earth is doomed but then scientists just say, whatever, when the food runs out the population will go down. But yea, there could be a system where nothing dies... you stop making new ones. Or like when you die, you make a duplicate... POP....the problem has always been animals having more than 2 offspring.

Originally Posted by sky123

Don't you think the creator/creators is ' Cause and effect ' ?

You mean the creator is not a willful being? Like evolution, impartial, no bias or "person" there? I would say who made the laws of evolution then. The laws clearly have a bias and intended result. Like how living things, on whole, seek to avoid pain and find pleasure. That is embedded in the laws of evolution and created beings. Why even have pleasure and pain in living things? It is easily erased, we do it with drugs. The question that comes to my mind there is why? No creator.... why all of this?

I'd also say the obvious which is overlooked. WE are creators. Everything you see around you we humans created, not the raw materials, the trees, sand, minerals, rocks ....but the wood, cement, steel, glass.... all human creations made out of the raw materials we found here. Then besides all that we create, we create our rooms, our relationships, our lives...

So 7 billion of us leave at around 100 years if we are lucky.... we are creators.... why would we stop out of the body? It's what we do.... and as modern scientists have discovered... an observer changes the behavior of matter.... so us just existing is creating or causing matter to change.

[SaturninePluto]

Originally Posted by Rain95

That's a good point. There's really a lot of philosophical questions about that topic.

If killing is always wrong, why are so many living things designed to kill to live? Lions, wolves, eagles, whales, and on and on? Even some plants will kill other plants. I saw a show on how some species of ivy will cover a tree and kill it. Some poisonous plants kill animals. Then why is this whole system based on death? We are all killed by various diseases and the body wearing out. God will kill every living thing. No living thing on earth lives forever.

The creator or creators of all of this could have easily made a system of life and biology where nothing is killed or dies I would assume.

Could have I suppose.

But a Creator as such would not show an ounce of mercy.

If nothing is killed, or died?

It is like a topic in a religious forum I used to go to years ago, where a member asked everyone a question entitled- Would you want to live forever?

The unanimous answer received was "Are you kidding me? Do I want to suffer forever? Would I like to suffer the abuses of others forever, the disease as well"?

"So and So brings up a good point. What is the point of living forever... when you are old and unhealthy..."?

"So we suffer the pain of disease, but do not die? We suffer the poverty and can not die"?

Most people in the discussion topic gave of a response of a resounding No.

And there are those too who responded with a longer answer again another way of saying no- I'd actually simply like to reserve my right to die.

And then you had those whom said yes, that living forever might be pretty fun.

And the rest of us could hardly understand this.

A creator that would have put us here and forced us to live forever never dying isn't a merciful creator.

And would not be worthy of my worship.

I take great comfort in the thought that I need not suffer with myself forever.

Eventually I will die like every other living thing on this planet does.

Fair enough for me.

[Podshell]

Nitiananda-Seeing as there are different versions, it may be an idea to start with the version of the ten you accept, eg I think the murder one is also interpreted as 'Killing' so could apply to animals and plants too.

(I think the above if 'not killing' is accepted instead of 'not murdering' is qualified later in the Bible, in that these can be carried out for God or for survival I think)